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Oxycodone withdrawals.

Ok so I was taking oxycodone pain killers for about 1 1/2 years for my back issues. 10 mg pills and I was only taking anywhere from 1 to 1 and a 1/2 a day. Never exceeded that. However I started getting nervous that long term probably isn't good on my stomach. So I lowered my dosage last week to 3/4 of a pill for about 5 days then I quit last Friday.

That's where the problems started. First 40 hours I felt like I had a strange low grade current running through my arms/legs. Not painful more like annoying. Almost like I just had to twitch or move my arms. That finally wore off and now I feel absolutely terrible. NO energy, NO desire to move, headaches for 3 days straight, I just feel like rolling in a ball and dying. And to top it off I awoke last night at 2AM and couldn't fall back asleep. So my long and drawn out question is...................Is this truly all from the withdrawals? I mean I am just having a hard time believing that this stems from taking pretty much 1 lousy pill a day. I understand 1 1/2 years is a long time, but 1 pill a day??
And then of course it leads me to my next question......How long is this going to legitimately last? I have been soooo tempted to just take a pill and get the pain over with but I really need to stay off of these. Any advice or information would truly help.
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Sorry, you click on my name not the person.  I keep making that mistake!
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You should start a new question.  You can do this by clicking on the green link post a question at the top of the page.  It will be easier to track your answers.  I have made many recommendations that you can check out.  Just click on the little person beside my name and it will take you to my page and you can read the posts.  You can do the same for Vickies.  
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I have been on percocet for years off and on due to 47 surgeries.  I have had 4 this year and need one more in December.  I quit percocet c/t two days ago and yesterday I thought I was losing my mind, high anxiety, restlessness and everything else that goes with withdrawls.  I can not sleep and am constantly laying down, getting up, moving, back to bed and the routine goes on.  I don't know what to do.  I did take a clonzapem for the anxiety which I am hoping helps. Any suggestions to get through this next few days without going crazy, not sleeping, or eating?
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My doctor gave me a script for pills that really helped my restless leg syndrome.  I made a post explaining it.  Check it out.
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Chow it's not odd at all. Days 3-6 were my worst days. Hang in there!!
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If you all don't mind me asking one more question. Around what day or days did you all find oxycodone withdrawals to be at its worst?  Today is day 5 for me and I feel absolutely lousy today. Headache and pressure on the back of my neck and my teeth and temples.  Very nauseous feeling (which is rare for me) and I just feel lousy!!!

Is this a little odd for day 5 considering I was only taking 1 1/2 pills per day for over a year?
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I have never heard anyone say they had the teeth pain so I'm relieved to read others had it. It started for me in one tooth too and spread to the whole bottom left of my mouth. It was much worse with warm food. Amazing we never connected the dots huh?

The RLS or restless body I had was mildly eased with a heating pad. I wasn't sleeping anyway so Id rotate it on all my spots. I also have a spaw but sitting it was too much effort most of the time, I was so tired.
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Wow, you brought up teeth pain...I had FORGOTTEN about that! I got it too! I was convinced I had a bad tooth, but then it went away and popped up in another one.   And so on and so on.

That electrical sensation buzzing through you also happened to me.  I couldn't find a comfortable position to put my hands, arms, and legs in.  The only thing that helped (besides just grinding thru it) was to physically exhaust myself with exercise.  

I work out on an elliptical and I go for very long walks...sometimes 2 hours at a time.  My joints are achy but I don't get the restlessness.  

Hang in there; you are doing great!  (and no more medical marijuana...I had a friend give me some too at Christmas..."no congitive impairment" she said.  Yeah, RIGHT.  It was not pleasant...pot makes me jittery and paranoid.)

There are things we can do to help soften the symptoms, but some of them we just have to push through...count the minutes, hours, days, and have faith.

Hugs,
-Robin
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Yeah no more lemon drops for me. Made my already tired body feel even more tired lol
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Chow I thought the same thing stopping the Percocet. I thought "omg what will I do when I'm old and hurt more!" But guess what? Pain went away with the pills! Try it! Try NOTHING...and reset your body for 6 months and see where yo land. Get it all out and assess your pain scale.

I experienced that high off the percs too and know what you mean about missing that good mood. Eventually you'll that high again but it'll be from life :) Stay away from pot drops for now lol. Let your body heal and detox.
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That's awesome 8 months clean. It's funny because today is the first day that I actually had a "craving" for a pill. And its really only a craving for that little giddy good mood it puts me in more than anything. One thing I am learning is that as I get older and start to experience more aches and pains I am going to be in a lot of trouble because I don't do pain well lol.

Funny story my buddy stopped down last week and gave me this song and dance how the answer to all my problems would be medical marijuana. I told him I refuse to smoke anything (I have never even tried smoking a cigarette) and he told me about the edible lemon drops that have like 10mg of marijuana in them. So in attempts to wean down on the percs I took a lemon drop.............BIG MISTAKE. Not only did I get a headache, but I went from feeling a nice pleasant high with the percs to wanting to fall asleep 30 times a day on the lemon drops. I do NOT see how anyone can do that drug and function. It was the first time in my life I ever tried it and I can honestly say it was a waste of time. I can see taking it if you have absolutely nothing to do for 3 days, but wow talk about snoozeville.

And I am not sure how they call it a "high" because (at least my experience) was anything but a high. Oxycodone.......now that is a high, but marijuana ummmm no lol.
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Like againnot said taking pills after this is a slippery slope. I know I would be too scared! However, the short acting pain meds are worse for dependency I was told by my pain doctor. He told me should I need surgery or something major and need pain control a long acting patch would be safer where addiction/dependency is concerned because it's a level dose not the up and down spikes.

Should I need surgery I will try to weather through...terrified doesn't befin to describe how I feel about them now. I even pulled myself off my birth control (for endometriosis) and my arthritis meds. To my astonishment all pain is gone still as I approach 8 weeks clean. Normal aches and pains like like that girlie monthly thing (sorry guys) were MORE painful on the pills. Go figure!

I'm still having bouts of anxiety and panic but I took my kids to Legoland yesterday like a normal parent :) Life is suddenly flowing back in and my God it's wonderful.
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Hi.  I admire your courage and determination !  Now that it was mentioned, I DO remember strange nerve pain in my teeth and bad TMJ the first several weeks of wd.  After 3 months, it's gone.
You asked if you could ever take a pill again.  The short answer is no.  It reminds your brain " o yeah, I like this!"  I will tell you that I had to take pain meds for a day and a half for a chemical burn in my eye.  I gave 3 pills only to my husband and asked him to only give me a half pill at a time.  It was scary to me, tho.  Jumped right back off of them.
Everyone gave you wonderful advice.  Keep up the good fight!
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Typos sorry I'm half asleep.
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Chow yep, this is all very normal of withdrawal and your body is confused. We all experience different effects as the cure is time! You may notice mood swings, depression or anxiety set in. Panic attacks are common and scary too. Mental side effects can be hard to deal with and may not get them but be prepared and discuss it if it occurs. The sensation in your body is liken to restless leg I think. I never had restless leg but I did have restless body! It's not a real term I suppose but that's what it feels like, I just had to move! It was worst when sleeping.

Insomnia and all that went with it was very hard...debilitating actually because I did not sleep for more than 15 mins a night for 12 days. I would fall asleep and slightly begin to dream and jerk awake, fall asleep and jerk awake. It was as though my brain had forgotten how to shut down. I noticed when sleep came back Id lay down and 20 mins would pass and Id be giddy Id slept that long. Then it would be sleep 20 awake for an hour, sleep 20 awake for an hour. The next night my sleep would increae to 40 mins awake an hour. And it gradually did that until I was in a couple hour blocks. One day I laid down and 9 hours passed without me moving. It WILL return to you.

In the mean time walk, so light exercise daily. Also keep eating and drinking! This takes a toll and it's easy to let your health suffer because of poor nutrition.

Hang in there! You're doing great. Your body is healing daily and figuring it out.
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All of you are so awesome for the blogs and post. I read most of these last night when I was having a hard time sleeping and I must say it really made me feel good to see that others had the same issues. I truly started to feel so lousy from the pain that I was just assuming I had an underlying issue and never knew it because of the pills.

None the less its been 91 hours and counting. I went for about 1.5 mile walk with my wife last night and drank tons of water and a Gatorade and last night around 9PM my headaches started to subside a tad. The real tough thing I experience (which I cannot seem to find much info on) is what I think they call tremors. Not even sure if it is the correct term, but the best way I can explain it is like a small electrical current that goes through my body. It causes me to want to move my hands, arms and legs quick. It doesn't necessarily hurt but it is a strange annoying feeling. It makes sleeping very difficult because even though my mind is exhausted, my body feels like I need to move. Very difficult to explain and so far out of all the google searches I have looked up it doesn't seem to be a popular find. But its definitely real lol.
Kinda feels like slight tingling nerve damage. But it isn't painful so my doctor cannot understand me when I explain it.
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Wow Mrs.ANAV you hit the nail on the head with something I have been experiencing that was driving me crazy.........TEETH PAIN. Oh my god it has been feeling like I have a jackhammer in my mouth and I was just lost trying to figure out why. So that must be the reason? I never would have thought that was from withdrawals. I told my wife just last night before I read your post "Did I have like 5 tooth infections and not know it because of the pills"
Now I am guessing it is just the nerve reaction from the pills based on your post. isn't that the most painful thing? And it just radiates to your head and jaw and everything. It is so weird to see you had the same issue.
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Chow please google "opioid induced hyper algesia syndrome." It is very common in chronic pain narcotic users but sorely diagnosed by pain doctors. I was found to have developed this. It essentially means the pills MAKE more pain. Since quitting I have been 100% pain free (once through acute withdrawal) and prior to quitting my entire body hurt, I couldn't cut my kids pancakes and even had wicked teeth pain. I kept taking more and more the more I hurt and it becomes a vicious cycle. I'm willing to bet if you push through the detox you'll wind up in less pain than when you started the pills!!
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hey Chowdahead ... this is a very insidious and seductive drug ... that's how it makes its living ... so just be careful.  Everything you're going through sounds just like w/ds to me, and I am not that surprised ... your body and brain got used to it. some twenty years ago i only used to take Tylenol 3's ... once in a while ... that eventually led to every day.  first dependence, then addiction.  i used for 14 years and was taking over 35 pills a day at the end.  you will feel better soon!  take good care.  :)
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Chow welcome! I am currently 7 weeks 1 day off oxycodone and like you I was only on them for 1 1/2 years. My dose was 1-3 5mg oxys a day and I rarely exceeded that but in the last two months I was on them for chronic pain.

I'm a little different in that I went cold turkey but YES this is withdrawal in my opinion. A year and a half is a long time where this drug is concerned!! You can be dependant on it after just two weeks and withdrawal. It messes up and depresses all your systems and greatly alters the way your brain produces chemicals.

Everyone is different but I will list my symptoms for you. They began 12 hours after my last dose and crippled me for two weeks but remember I stopped abruptly.

* severe panic attacks
* severe anxiety
* diarrhea
* fatigue
* insomnia (didn't sleep a ALL for 12 days...yes it's possible.)
* total aversion to food and drink
* dry heaves
* excessive sweating and chills alternating
* headache
* runny nose
* sneezing fits
* rapid pounding heart rate
* mental confusion due to sheer exhaustion
* body aches

I basically dealt with all of the above at the same time for 16 full days. It was agonizing.

You were taking a smaller dose even though you pills were a higher milligram but you WILL experience your own set of withdrawals. My best advice is first to taper as SLOWLY as possible to lessen symptoms and once you stop or during taper please know you'll get through it and you will get better!! The biggest thing I can say is GET OFF IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!
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Yup, headaches are normal.

Everyone is different, and some people have a different threshold of sensitivity than others.  I can't tell you what will happen if you take a pill two months from now...if you DID truly develop an addiction, well, the conventional wisdom says that YES, you'll be right back where you are now.    The "call of the cells" will never you.  This is classic 12-step theology...but it is your body and you have to decide for yourself.

You might benefit from my story:

I came on here after 8 years on oxycodone...always prescribed, rarely abused.  I was taking 40 mgs a day (4 of the pills you had, every day.)  But I didn't start out with 4 of them.   I had excruciating back pain and I started on hydrocodone (not as strong as oxy).

Then I graduated to oxycodone.  Just 1 a day. Then 1.5, then 2.  Eventually, I was on 4.  My doctor upped that to 6 a day, but I only stayed at that level for a week and stopped myself.  It scared me...I'm a small person, and it was just too much.

And there I stayed...for many years.  Am I an addict?  I don't know...I guess yes.  I was dependent on the oxy, and my withdrawals were AWFUL.   I like 12 step programs, and the philosophy they embrace.  I think I would got to AA meetings even if I wasn't addicted to anything, because it is a blueprint for living my life.

I probably told you more than you wanted to know.   My challenge now is avoiding ANYTHING that is mind-altering and has abuse potential.

Everything you are going through is normal withdrawals.  It will go away...quicker than you think, I'd imagine.  You were on the low end of the usage scale, but trust me, opiates are insidious.  Many, many, MANY people start out using them very judiciously and end up in a place they never thought they would be in a million years.  There but for the grace of God...

The pain you are feeling is probably hyperalgesia.    The pain receptors in your brain (and GI tract) are screaming for the opiate, and until they down-regulate, you're body is going to perceive the change as pain; it can get quite intense.

Here are the things that helped me (I'm 10 months out.):  

Exercise.  Of ANY kind...I cannot emphasize enough how much of a difference this makes.  Brisk walking if nothing else....

Laughing: This seems obvious but I'm totally serious.  MAKE yourself laugh...rent funny movies.  Watch old George Carlin stand-ups on youtube...anything that is hilarious and absurd, put it in front of you.  

Sex:  You may not feel like it, but the effects are similar to exercise (ok, I'll stop here...gotta keeps things PG..)

Water:  As Vickie said, this is HUGE.   Drink an ounce for every pound you weigh...you should be peeing all the time.  

Distraction:  As Vickie put it: "keep yourself re-directed."  There's gold in those words.  I know it's really hard, but force yourself NOT to obsess over your physical symptoms.   Oxycodone is a strong drug you and your body obviously habituated to the regular daily intake of it.  You stopped it and now your physiology is rebounding from that:    Headaches, body aches, upset stomach, diarrhea, lack of sleep, severe anxiety, lethargy, all of it.  

Hang in there, honey.   All of this will be MUCH different in a week; I can almost guarantee it.

Hugs,
-Robin
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Wow that was very nice to hear that response from you. I appreciate that. I think the toughest part for me (which is where paranoia sets in) is that I have had this headache on the back of my neck that radiates to my temple area. I am the kind of person who NEVER gets headaches. So now that I am having them of course my paranoid side of me thinks "oh god what else is wrong"
I have truly walked around for well over a year thinking "this cannot affect me because it is only a pill or so a day". And WOW you were so right about the mental thing. My body hurts everywhere to the point where I am wondering "did this always feel this way and I masked it, or is this the pills" It truly is crazy and I cannot imagine people who take a lot of these or other drugs like Meth. I truly have a ton of respect for anyone who has gone through this and had a bigger problem then me because for 73 hours now (Yes I am keeping time) this has taken a major toll on my body.

So I do have another question for you............Does this mean I can NEVER take these again? I mean if I take one 2 months from now is the addiction still guaranteed to be there or can I take one here and there for what it is meant for without worrying? Funny thing is I NEVER took this for the "euphoric no pain feeling" until the last 3 months. I truly took it all that time prior to this thinking it was curving my pain and nothing else. What really got me to dig deeper into this is when I stopped for 4 days (granted much earlier on in the game) and my mood drastically changed. I was in a bad mood and angry for a week. I started taking them again and all was great..........THAT is when I knew this may be a developing problem.

So am I safe to assume the headaches are normal?
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Hi Chow.
I guess I can Welcome You to the Substance Community. I noticed you have been on here since 2014 and in other Areas on MH.

Well speaking from my own experiences, YES it sounds like w/ds. I know, I know and I too can not believe that a low amount like that can cause us to have w/ds even after at a yr.

I do however, think you will see the light sooner then most of us on here. You did chip a bit and got way, way down there. This should pass real soon. Always know that there will be a bit of a Mental issue going with this. It does not hurt, but it is when our Emotions come back like a Flaming Fire.

Just give it Time and hang onto that Patience as this here will pass.
Drinks Tons of Fluids and make it mostly water. You can add packets of vit/min to your water these days. Get out and keep yourself re-directed too. I think, you most likely have read many posting on this.  You WILL Bounce right back soon and YOU are one of the Lucky Ones. Eat Healthy so you can replenish back all those Vit/Min and Electrolytes we loose when we use.

Keep checking your post as others will chime in too.
Keep us updated on how you are feeling and jump in here for Support and to Support others.
Bless
Vickie
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