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Oxycotin Detox
This board was suggested to me by a friend and I am so glad that I have found it. I have read most of the previous Oxy questions but still would like some additional help.
I had back surgery about a year ago and was prescribed percocet for the pain. Eventually my doctor took me off of that and said that he would not ruin my life with pain meds. Now comes the tricky part! I have also been sharing the perks with my girlfriend who consumes the same amount as I. We were now taking about seven perks apiece a day. My Doctor said that he would not "ruin my life" but he knew of a pain managment doctor who would. I went to this doctor and was amazed at how eaisly he wrote out scripts. Immediatly he put me on 20mg 2x a day (oxycotin) and gave me an additional 40 perks a month for break-through pain. Which by the way I have none of. Anyway, we started eating this pills slowly at first but were eventually up to about 80-100mg. a day. Needless to say when you times this addiction by two it gets very expensive when you run out. We took this medication for about four months and then one day last week realized how theese pills were ruining our lives. Everything from not having sex (I am 28, she is 26) to not being able to function without the pills. I am on workmans comp and have alot of free time, she does not work. We would wake up every day...peel two 20's each and chew them up before even getting out of bed. After that we would "fly" around town doing a whole lot of nothing. Sorry to ramble on but we really have no one else to talk to disscuss this with. Today is day seven, we are pretty much detoxed in the sence that we can now go out of the house but my girlfriend still experiences cold chills and sweats during the night but she is slowly getting better. She also takes xanax once in awhile to help with this. Remeber I get 60 oxy 20's and 40 perks a month. Now is the hard part. I have the next two month scripts sitting on my desk waiting to be filled. I want to know what we should do in order to stay off of this stuff? Please do not suggest any AA type support groups as we are not about the whole group thing. We are however very serious about this so please do not take our not wanting to go to NA as a sign of us not wanting to quit. When you consider that if you sit at home and chew a couple of them little devils up EVERYTHING in life is interesting. Without them, we find ourselves bored and depressed. Will this pass? Will we be able to enjoy and be interested in things as we were on the pills? Two nights ago I went to see a concert totaly straight and was bored out of my mind. The show itself was great but I kept imagining how much better it would have been on Oxy's. I would like to know if there is anyone out there that is having the same problems as we are and if anyone got through it to the point were they now enjoy life to the fullist? Thank you so much for taking the time to listen and I look forward to your replies.
I had back surgery about a year ago and was prescribed percocet for the pain. Eventually my doctor took me off of that and said that he would not ruin my life with pain meds. Now comes the tricky part! I have also been sharing the perks with my girlfriend who consumes the same amount as I. We were now taking about seven perks apiece a day. My Doctor said that he would not "ruin my life" but he knew of a pain managment doctor who would. I went to this doctor and was amazed at how eaisly he wrote out scripts. Immediatly he put me on 20mg 2x a day (oxycotin) and gave me an additional 40 perks a month for break-through pain. Which by the way I have none of. Anyway, we started eating this pills slowly at first but were eventually up to about 80-100mg. a day. Needless to say when you times this addiction by two it gets very expensive when you run out. We took this medication for about four months and then one day last week realized how theese pills were ruining our lives. Everything from not having sex (I am 28, she is 26) to not being able to function without the pills. I am on workmans comp and have alot of free time, she does not work. We would wake up every day...peel two 20's each and chew them up before even getting out of bed. After that we would "fly" around town doing a whole lot of nothing. Sorry to ramble on but we really have no one else to talk to disscuss this with. Today is day seven, we are pretty much detoxed in the sence that we can now go out of the house but my girlfriend still experiences cold chills and sweats during the night but she is slowly getting better. She also takes xanax once in awhile to help with this. Remeber I get 60 oxy 20's and 40 perks a month. Now is the hard part. I have the next two month scripts sitting on my desk waiting to be filled. I want to know what we should do in order to stay off of this stuff? Please do not suggest any AA type support groups as we are not about the whole group thing. We are however very serious about this so please do not take our not wanting to go to NA as a sign of us not wanting to quit. When you consider that if you sit at home and chew a couple of them little devils up EVERYTHING in life is interesting. Without them, we find ourselves bored and depressed. Will this pass? Will we be able to enjoy and be interested in things as we were on the pills? Two nights ago I went to see a concert totaly straight and was bored out of my mind. The show itself was great but I kept imagining how much better it would have been on Oxy's. I would like to know if there is anyone out there that is having the same problems as we are and if anyone got through it to the point were they now enjoy life to the fullist? Thank you so much for taking the time to listen and I look forward to your replies.
dearest chad. i have the upmost respect and admiration for you my brother. as we both know and have encountered the road to been free of opiods is a difficult road with many whinding paths to lead us astray. stay strong brother from what i have read in all your letters and replies it seems that gradually each day you are doing better and better and my brother now i think the opiods physically have left your system if i am right tell me! however for the neuro0transmitters to get back to a normal functioning state prior to opiod use it takes time and alot of it brother chad. i am talking like anywhere between 6 months to 2 years yes chad it takes alongtime for the neuro-biology to return to a normal functioning state prior to opiod use but if the research is correct as time gies on the seratonin and noredrenaline levels do tendto improve each day and depression should be a thing of yesterday if that makes sense, what i mean is that day by day the seratonin and noredreanile levels begin to average out again and begin reproducing themselves post opiod use which does block the production in some people of these mood altering chemicals so if you are feeling depressed i reccommend go and see a specialist my brother, there is a wonderful anti-depressant called efexor which is a relatively new one. it works on both the seratonin and the noredrenaline and slightly the dopamine pathways so it touches all three of the most neuro-transmitter pathways brother chad.
donot fear going on an anti-depressant iknow for me the efexor has made the world of difference especially since i retired my opiods which i was using 5-8 years for pain management but became bitterly addicted and the level of oxycontin went from 20mg's to 160mg's just to sustanin myself brother so i know exactly where your coming from and where your going and how you might be feeling with the whole detoxification process.
please drop me a reply my brother as i mentioned earlier you seem to be a very knowledgable person with alot of fight and spirit and heart and i have the utmost respect and admiration foryou and yes let us educate others my friend as if we can help or educate even one soul than this is fantastic.
love always andrew elchemarcos best wishes and hugs to you brother...
dearest chad. i have the upmost respect and admiration for you my brother. as we both know and have encountered the road to been free of opiods is a difficult road with many whinding paths to lead us astray. stay strong brother from what i have read in all your letters and replies it seems that gradually each day you are doing better and better and my brother now i think the opiods physically have left your system if i am right tell me! however for the neuro0transmitters to get back to a normal functioning state prior to opiod use it takes time and alot of it brother chad. i am talking like anywhere between 6 months to 2 years yes chad it takes alongtime for the neuro-biology to return to a normal functioning state prior to opiod use but if the research is correct as time gies on the seratonin and noredrenaline levels do tendto improve each day and depression should be a thing of yesterday if that makes sense, what i mean is that day by day the seratonin and noredreanile levels begin to average out again and begin reproducing themselves post opiod use which does block the production in some people of these mood altering chemicals so if you are feeling depressed i reccommend go and see a specialist my brother, there is a wonderful anti-depressant called efexor which is a relatively new one. it works on both the seratonin and the noredrenaline and slightly the dopamine pathways so it touches all three of the most neuro-transmitter pathways brother chad.
donot fear going on an anti-depressant iknow for me the efexor has made the world of difference especially since i retired my opiods which i was using 5-8 years for pain management but became bitterly addicted and the level of oxycontin went from 20mg's to 160mg's just to sustanin myself brother so i know exactly where your coming from and where your going and how you might be feeling with the whole detoxification process.
please drop me a reply my brother as i mentioned earlier you seem to be a very knowledgable person with alot of fight and spirit and heart and i have the utmost respect and admiration foryou and yes let us educate others my friend as if we can help or educate even one soul than this is fantastic.
love always andrew elchemarcos best wishes and hugs to you brother...
To answer you question,I started by getting into med room and taking any narc that the pt. was finished with as it was in a pile to go back to pharmacy. This is how I got to try Roxinal and oxycontin. Then I made a really f-up decision to take something that wasn't in that pile. Percs that the pt was still using. They count them on every shift, something I was ignorant of at the time or so much in addict mode that I didn't care. You know when you think it's not going to happen to me cause I'm so trusted. A touch of grandiose behavior, don't you think? Anyway only two of us had used the keys to enter the room, so the tested both of us and took us to the police station where we were asked questions and if we were willing to take a lie detector test. Of course I said yes but after they talked to me some more I broke down and told them the truth. The detectives were extremely nice to me and informed me they knew I did it as opposed to the other girl. They said that I made eye contact in the beginning but looked away during some of the latter questions. They also told me that had I continued to lie things could have been worse. I explained that I was going to lose my job and they went the extra mile to talk to my supervisor on my behalf. It didn't do any good, however, because I stole it was immediate termination. Had I gone to my boss and admitted I had a problem before I took anything, I would have been eligible for the employee assistance program but guess what? I didn't want to do that and embarrass myself. Can you imagine that? Thats when and how I got into treatment. I've been reading your responses to Chad and all the others, it makes for interesting reading. Oh, I forgot the punch line to my story, the drug test came back negative for oxycodone. I tested positive for darvocet and barbituate (esgic) both of which I had legitimate scripts for and proved it. Boy, does that bring up some bad "stomach in the throat" feelings. Well we live and learn! Thanks for the advice on the computer I will try it.
did you say you were fired at one time for using on the job? How did that happen? Did you get drug tested?
also, when you get to the forum site, "bookmark" it if you're using Netscape Communicator, or save it as a "favorite" if you're using the Internet Explorer browser. That will take you directly to this site. Don't bookmark it when you're in this thread, though. Back out to the level where all the threads are listed and do it there. It will save time.
I must admit that, after an intense first week at the software developer where I now work, I had to "reward" myself by adding a Soma (a non-benzo muscle relaxant) to my usual dose of Darvon. It's the only thing I take for no other purpose than to feel good. But when it's gone, no big deal. It's one of those drugs I mentioned that don't overtly hook me. I get some every couple of months or so. I'm so conditioned to reward myself with a high after a lot of work, I simply must do it if it's around. Getting Soma is easy if you have a back problem: ask for Valium and then mention you've also used Soma successfully for your back problem and your doctor will usually "bargain it down" to Soma. He's relieved you're not insisting on Valium. That can work, fortunately or unfortunately, with pain pills: ask for the moon and settle for something down the list. Doctors will almost always give you Darvon or Ultram if you start out asking for Vicodin. It's a classic but it still works. I'm not encouraging you to use, but the Soma is an example of diverting your use to something that won't take you over. The docs won't be thrilled with me posting this, but then they're not around, are they? And adddicts will be addicts ...
also, when you get to the forum site, "bookmark" it if you're using Netscape Communicator, or save it as a "favorite" if you're using the Internet Explorer browser. That will take you directly to this site. Don't bookmark it when you're in this thread, though. Back out to the level where all the threads are listed and do it there. It will save time.
I must admit that, after an intense first week at the software developer where I now work, I had to "reward" myself by adding a Soma (a non-benzo muscle relaxant) to my usual dose of Darvon. It's the only thing I take for no other purpose than to feel good. But when it's gone, no big deal. It's one of those drugs I mentioned that don't overtly hook me. I get some every couple of months or so. I'm so conditioned to reward myself with a high after a lot of work, I simply must do it if it's around. Getting Soma is easy if you have a back problem: ask for Valium and then mention you've also used Soma successfully for your back problem and your doctor will usually "bargain it down" to Soma. He's relieved you're not insisting on Valium. That can work, fortunately or unfortunately, with pain pills: ask for the moon and settle for something down the list. Doctors will almost always give you Darvon or Ultram if you start out asking for Vicodin. It's a classic but it still works. I'm not encouraging you to use, but the Soma is an example of diverting your use to something that won't take you over. The docs won't be thrilled with me posting this, but then they're not around, are they? And adddicts will be addicts ...
The hotmail account sounds like a good idea. I hate to tell you all the different sites I have to through to get to here. I know there must be a shortcut but like I said before this is new to me. I had a great day today, just made up mind to do it and not feel sorry for myself. I think I didn't want to lose my security blanket and have to venture back out for a real job. Well I see you responded to Chad (very well I might add) and I too was smiling to myself. Although the situation in itself is not funny haven't we all been there. That's the amusing part. He's in for a nice rollercoaster ride. Poor guy! I think being with someone who also uses makes matters worse. Double-Troube!!! I do wish him well...I had to respond to him myself. Well I will check for your address but if for some reason you don't hear from me, check back here to see if I had problems figuring it out. I really am more intelligent than that last sentence sounded> Ha Ha! Talk to you soon.....
Re the hotmail account: I (or you) can go to hotmail.com and create (for free) an e-mail account that operates through the hotmail server independent of our home (or work) e-mail accounts. You can name it anything you like, so it doesn
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