Ok I only had 5 ultram yesterday but I upped it to 6 today with 5 I just could not sleep very well. I will do 6 for a couple of days and and tapper more after that. really wanted to stay at 5 but at least I'm starting. I train pretty hard everyday so I hope my journey to getting off these Damn pills will come soon. THX Cathy for your advice I just happened to stumble on this site one day and man it really helps to hear that I'm not crazy I mean My doctor right up until last week still wasn't convinced Tramadol is very addicting LOL