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SUB QUESTION (DOSING)
Ok all you sub users I have a question about taking the sub. I am taking it 3 times a day. I am taking 4mg each time I take it. I feel a little edgey and kinda cloudy in the head at times. Would I be better taking it twice a day at say 6mgs or maybe 8mg each time. Does it matter how many times a day you take it. Do you figure you dosage by the amount you take at a time or what you take in a day. Hope this makes some kind of sense. I'm taking it in small doses thinking it is better than taking the larger amount less times a day. Help please
To worried878, for me personally, the short term plan is mainly to detox off of lortabs since I cannot bear the thought of going CT. I couldn't go long term even if I wanted to because I don't have the money...in fact I don't have the money for my lortab script anymore either so I have to try really hard.
One of the main things I think will help me in the future is knowing that eventually our brains start healing and my energy will come back with time, exercise & nutrition. Just knowing these things really mean alot for me personally. Kinda like seeing a light at the end of the tunnel. I try to remember that I went 35 yrs. without needing pills to live so I can surely work towards that again.
I do agree Ilovelukey that everyone is different and I agree, everyone should do what works best for them.
Lyn
One of the main things I think will help me in the future is knowing that eventually our brains start healing and my energy will come back with time, exercise & nutrition. Just knowing these things really mean alot for me personally. Kinda like seeing a light at the end of the tunnel. I try to remember that I went 35 yrs. without needing pills to live so I can surely work towards that again.
I do agree Ilovelukey that everyone is different and I agree, everyone should do what works best for them.
Lyn
I don't know hon. All I know is that what I have read is that the PAWS people talk about after getting off the Subs are from the doc they were on before...not from the subs. They say so many people think the PAWS are from the Subs but they are really still from all of the pain killers we took that "f''ed up the receptors. The brain trying to get back on track from all the years of what the vics, etc. did to the recptors. I am no expert on any of this brain stuff in no way whatsoever.. Just know what I have read from people that have been thru it all. I just hope we can all do well with whatever we decide to do.Different things work for different people. That is all that matters here. We all have different needs and different ideas as to how we think we will be able to get well. Let's just all do what we feel is best for us as individuals and yet give all of the support that we possibly can in the meantime to anyone who needs help. What works for one may not work for the other. Nevertheless, let us keep supporting each other. That is what it is all about. Right guys?
I was just wondering....can a short term dosage/taper plan of suboxone help keep you from relapsing later on? Or is it mainly just to avoid withdrawals from your DOC?
Just on here to try to help. I am on 12 mg. 1/2 morn, 1/2 aft. 1/2 eve. I take the evening dose early as it tends to make me not sleep as well if I take it much after 4:00. And actually, my "nod off" factor has diminished. Guess my body got used to it. I was going to an addiction psychologist the would not take my insurance and charged me $100.00 a pop (just to write a script, no counceling). Just found a new guy that just got his Sub license and will take my insurance. So I will now be paying $15.00 instead of $100.00. So happy. Anyway I have found that.....my own personal experience...take the least amount of dose you can to feel ok. Just don't take anymore than you need to. Find that comfortable zone. Best of luck to you Hop and to me in our crusade to find a new and wonderful drug free life. Stay strong. God bless you.
Hey Guys,
My name is MikeWithFamily. I am going on week#12 right now with my Suboxone Treatment. Prior to taking Sub I was taking 30 to 40 Vics a day. Understand first.The only Docs that can prescribe Sub are those that have been received the special training and awarded a special license to prescribe it. Not all doctors can presribe. Hop, I saw you say something about going to your regular doc...is he licensed? If not, go to this website and you can find one in your state/city/zip code http://www.suboxone.com/patients/resources/find_a_doctor.aspx?qs=ga&gclid=CM_Ivcr59JICFQGIPAodv2nM1A
I have read many posts from people talking about Sub; however I was able to also identify that many of the posts were from people who had never taken it, they were just repeating what they heard or read on another post...grapevine effect. The specific information that I think was most important related to how long to take it and if tapering off of it was difficult or not. The things I read were just crazy because they differed in so many ways. My family doctor just happened to be trained and licensed to prescribe Sub. I was very lucky to have him guide me and he still is guiding me. I see him once a month right now. Anyway, what I was reading told me that taking Sub was a terrible thing because I would get "hooked" on them, that I need to get off them as soon as possible and that coming off the Sub had worse side effects than the original drug I was hooked on....blah, blah blah, (no disrespect meant, but come one) Anyway, Take it from someone who has been on it now for over 11 weeks, Don't do a quick taper plan. As far as coming off Sub, my doctor told me (and like I said, he is my family doctor, I've known him for over 11 years now) that all you have to do is a careful taper plan and you will feel only mild (if any) withdrawal effects.
Let me explain why you need to remain on it for an extended amount of time. In a nutshell, you need time to eliminate the bad habits from your life and build newer (more healthier) ones. A quick taper only puts you back in your environment aftera few weeks and forces you to face your old habits of time and what to do with that time; which is one of the things that got you to where you are today...think about it. YOu need to remove yourself from that environment for an extended amount of time and doing a long term plan allows you to do that. What I have been doing is finding new ways to spend my time, taking up new hobbies, reinvigorating old hobbies, establishing a different nightly pattern and yes, believe me when I say this; sleep is the most incredible feeling again!!! Believe when I tell you this, the sleep you were gettingwhile being on your DOC was not quality sleep. The sleep you start experiencing while taking Sub is quality and just incredible. Sorry, anyway, because Suboxone removes the withdrawal effects and eliminates the cravings, you need to experience weeks and weeks on end of not experiencing the cravings; and when you do experience a mild craving, you need to learn how to deal with it in a consistently effective manner so it will not catchyou off guard later on. I've taking up fishing again, reading my bible, reconnecting with God, mending the fractured relationships I caused while taking the drugs, spending quality and quantity of time with the kids again, etc...Life is so incredibly awesome now. I feel better than I have in years and although I give all the credit to the Lord Jesus Christ for not only guiding me to a solution, but for carrying me when I could not walk anymore. During the first month, you will experience some days where you will feel down a bit, the second month, you will expereince less days of feeling down and the 3rd month (so far for me) I experience essentially no down days. I went fishing today, friend asked me to put something in his glove box and when I opened it, there was a bottle of Vicodin, and it did not bother me one bit!!! Yeah!! Thats an awesome feeling. I have also not expereinced a craving in weeks so that is getting much better too. Its important to have a good long, healthy time frame where you have no cravings, that confidence is what you wear each and every day and you know, you just know that you do not ever, ever, ever want to go back to doing the drugs again. When you are able to go a long, long time with out cravings, that cause those down days, then you just never want to go back to anything other than what is inf ront of you right now at this moment!!! My wife and I are doing incredible right now; my children look forward to me coming home and a few of my close friends like going out to dinner with us again.
I am not worried about the withdrawal effects when I taper off of it. My doctor said he will be with me every step of the way and make sure that I come off the Sub with out any problems.
I also believe you have to do what works best for you...with that said, all I suggest is that you seriously take time to consider all of this. I mean, if you have no reason to rush through it, then take your time. As far as I am concerned, its been the best 3 week investment I have every made for myself and family.
I wish you both thebest of luck.
God Bless You and I will be praying for you both.
Mike
My name is MikeWithFamily. I am going on week#12 right now with my Suboxone Treatment. Prior to taking Sub I was taking 30 to 40 Vics a day. Understand first.The only Docs that can prescribe Sub are those that have been received the special training and awarded a special license to prescribe it. Not all doctors can presribe. Hop, I saw you say something about going to your regular doc...is he licensed? If not, go to this website and you can find one in your state/city/zip code http://www.suboxone.com/patients/resources/find_a_doctor.aspx?qs=ga&gclid=CM_Ivcr59JICFQGIPAodv2nM1A
I have read many posts from people talking about Sub; however I was able to also identify that many of the posts were from people who had never taken it, they were just repeating what they heard or read on another post...grapevine effect. The specific information that I think was most important related to how long to take it and if tapering off of it was difficult or not. The things I read were just crazy because they differed in so many ways. My family doctor just happened to be trained and licensed to prescribe Sub. I was very lucky to have him guide me and he still is guiding me. I see him once a month right now. Anyway, what I was reading told me that taking Sub was a terrible thing because I would get "hooked" on them, that I need to get off them as soon as possible and that coming off the Sub had worse side effects than the original drug I was hooked on....blah, blah blah, (no disrespect meant, but come one) Anyway, Take it from someone who has been on it now for over 11 weeks, Don't do a quick taper plan. As far as coming off Sub, my doctor told me (and like I said, he is my family doctor, I've known him for over 11 years now) that all you have to do is a careful taper plan and you will feel only mild (if any) withdrawal effects.
Let me explain why you need to remain on it for an extended amount of time. In a nutshell, you need time to eliminate the bad habits from your life and build newer (more healthier) ones. A quick taper only puts you back in your environment aftera few weeks and forces you to face your old habits of time and what to do with that time; which is one of the things that got you to where you are today...think about it. YOu need to remove yourself from that environment for an extended amount of time and doing a long term plan allows you to do that. What I have been doing is finding new ways to spend my time, taking up new hobbies, reinvigorating old hobbies, establishing a different nightly pattern and yes, believe me when I say this; sleep is the most incredible feeling again!!! Believe when I tell you this, the sleep you were gettingwhile being on your DOC was not quality sleep. The sleep you start experiencing while taking Sub is quality and just incredible. Sorry, anyway, because Suboxone removes the withdrawal effects and eliminates the cravings, you need to experience weeks and weeks on end of not experiencing the cravings; and when you do experience a mild craving, you need to learn how to deal with it in a consistently effective manner so it will not catchyou off guard later on. I've taking up fishing again, reading my bible, reconnecting with God, mending the fractured relationships I caused while taking the drugs, spending quality and quantity of time with the kids again, etc...Life is so incredibly awesome now. I feel better than I have in years and although I give all the credit to the Lord Jesus Christ for not only guiding me to a solution, but for carrying me when I could not walk anymore. During the first month, you will experience some days where you will feel down a bit, the second month, you will expereince less days of feeling down and the 3rd month (so far for me) I experience essentially no down days. I went fishing today, friend asked me to put something in his glove box and when I opened it, there was a bottle of Vicodin, and it did not bother me one bit!!! Yeah!! Thats an awesome feeling. I have also not expereinced a craving in weeks so that is getting much better too. Its important to have a good long, healthy time frame where you have no cravings, that confidence is what you wear each and every day and you know, you just know that you do not ever, ever, ever want to go back to doing the drugs again. When you are able to go a long, long time with out cravings, that cause those down days, then you just never want to go back to anything other than what is inf ront of you right now at this moment!!! My wife and I are doing incredible right now; my children look forward to me coming home and a few of my close friends like going out to dinner with us again.
I am not worried about the withdrawal effects when I taper off of it. My doctor said he will be with me every step of the way and make sure that I come off the Sub with out any problems.
I also believe you have to do what works best for you...with that said, all I suggest is that you seriously take time to consider all of this. I mean, if you have no reason to rush through it, then take your time. As far as I am concerned, its been the best 3 week investment I have every made for myself and family.
I wish you both thebest of luck.
God Bless You and I will be praying for you both.
Mike
I don't have any advice but I just wanted to say thank you Hops for posting on your progress and especially dosage levels because in a couple of weeks I will be doing the same for pretty much the same habit...10mg lortab..anywhere from 6 to 10 a day for quite a while.
It is comforting to see how other's are doing with their detox. I have been keeping all the members in my prayers and I hate so much that we all have to go through this.
Do you mind me asking if you are taking any vitamins/amino's or anything for sleep? Also, how is it in general with sleep while you are taking sub? Lastly, how long have you decided to take the sub. for?
I am hoping to try a 10 to 14 day low dose detox...I think my dr. might not really have a clue but he is cheap so I am basically trying to learn dosage levels and how long from you guys.
Hugs to you and you are doing great! Lyn
It is comforting to see how other's are doing with their detox. I have been keeping all the members in my prayers and I hate so much that we all have to go through this.
Do you mind me asking if you are taking any vitamins/amino's or anything for sleep? Also, how is it in general with sleep while you are taking sub? Lastly, how long have you decided to take the sub. for?
I am hoping to try a 10 to 14 day low dose detox...I think my dr. might not really have a clue but he is cheap so I am basically trying to learn dosage levels and how long from you guys.
Hugs to you and you are doing great! Lyn
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