hey friend,
yes a taper is possible, I did it, and I am a year and four months clean now and feeling great. I had to do it for my job too, or I would have just jumped. I was where you are and I thought it would never be ok again, but it is great.
For a successful taper though you have to slack off on the total mg per day. taking one here and there is not gonna be beneficial. just an example, 20 mg for so many days devided in doses, then 18 for so many days devided in doses, then 16, etc etc.
Good luck, you can do this!
hugs,
Lily
I agree with you all but I am considering my circumstances which is being on them so long and high quantities that would be very hard for me. I am 61 with a special needs daughter with no support and wake up at 5:30 to go to a job. No I have no time more time off and wanted to do this now so I was not gonna wait until I had time off again. I have to do what is best for me. I have come along way and I know without a shadow of a doubt that I will get thru this. Mine is just a slower process I will share my entire experience when I am clean I have been thru so much I am just grateful I am sitting here being able to post this.
Just go ahead and stop all together like everyone else is saying. It will suck for a few days but then you start to get better rapidly! The subs will just delay the inevitable and make it much worse in the long run. God bless you, and you will be in my prayers.
^^^Agree. If I were you I would jump at this point and get the w/ds over with! You're just dragging out your misery and I can assure you that you're w/ds are going to be any worse if you jump now and just stick it out. The first 48 hrs are the worst so just get them over with and move forward with your recovery.
Re: the Sub - absolutely do NOT mess with them. Most people that come on here say that they wish they had never touched the subs and had just gone through the opiate w/ds. The w/ds from subs are worse and last longer.
You're doing great! I recommend, at this point, that you jump and start counting your clean time:). You can do it! You've done great thus far!
Hi there! I just wanted to add my two cents here, for what they are worth. Doing a fast taper is not going to help you. At this point, taking a pill here and there to alleviate withdrawal symptoms is just dragging your misery out and not helping. If you just jump, you will be through the worst of this in a few days. I know the little voice in your head is telling you all kinds of stuff about how you need just one to take the edge off, blah, blah, blah. If you don't break the cycle and shut that voice up, it will always want another pill and soon one or two turns into four or five and on and on. Cut your supply to the pills whether doctor or dealer and do this dang thing! Also where are you getting the Lyrica? Lyrica is not a drug that you can take here and there. It has to be taken on a regular basis and takes time to adequately build up in your system and work properly. (It is similar to the way antidepressants work)This is a drug that really needs to be taken under a doctor's supervision. It holds it's own risk for dependency and addiction with some pretty nasty withdrawals. You are not doing anything at all by taking this drug every now and then when you think you need it. Please be careful! I hope that you find a plan that works for you and are able to stick with it. It is a very hard thing to do, but sometimes we just have to bite the bullet and jump. We are all here for you. Please keep posting. Take care and try to keep your head up.
P.S. For the restless leg, my trick is Icy Hot on the legs then wrap them snugly in Ace Bandages. This really helps settle them down and you can sleep with them on. I hope you find some relief soon!
I started on Sunday weaning down to 4 yesterday to 2. I think I am actually doing a fast taper. I am at work and stay very busy so I cant focus on what i am feelin which helps me tremendously. It is 10:05 and I have not have one so I am trying to hold off as long as I can and taking ibuprofen for the uncomfortable feelings.I am trying to be very careful did not take the lyrica last night cuz i dont want to get used to that either.
Also wanted to add: it may work for others, but Hylands didn't do a thing for me. At bedtime I took magnesium, potassium, and calcium...that along with the Alteril and an epsom salt bath really seemed to help. Are you still weaning, or have you jumped?
I think for me, the horrible leg stuff lasted 3 days...it was always worse at night. Try doing some leg stretches at night, and then hop into the epsom salt bath afterwards (at night/bedtime). I tried everything under the sun to help with sleep...unisom, etc, and it actually made things worse. Go to walmart, cvs, etc and buy a natural sleep med called Alteril. You're supposed to take 2. These knocked me OUT. Couldn't hold my eyes open. It is the ONLY thing that helped me sleep and did NOT make things worse. I've been through this a couple times, and sleep was much better after I discovered the Alteril.
How many days are you into your detox? Keep hanging on, you can do this. Do not ever start back up on the pills because then you'll have to start all over again. Hang on! I know it doesn't feel like it, but it WILL start getting better.
Big hugs! You've got this...you are strong and WILL make it!
BAD BAD night it was horrible I think they are getting worse did everything and nothing helped. I even ran 7 blocks before going to bed. Took the espom salt baths, the Hylands. I feel bad cuz I had taken 2 the whole day and i reached for one last night to get some sleep for work. I'm at work and have chills and feel just blahhhh. I need to just start working to get my mind off of this, Maybe I should get some suboxen what do u think. Days arent that bad its the nights that are unbearable,
you are doing so great friend, I am so proud of you!!!
keep up the good work, and when times turn rough you remember there I slight at the end of the tunnel.
Stay hydrated and drink ensure. I am a year and 4 months off now, and I started tapering like you, so you see its possible and you will do this!
hugs,
Lily
Well I finally fell asleep at 3:00 a.m. and had to get up at 5:45 for work but I hopped out of bed cuz since I have not taken as many tabs I am not as tired in the morning or during the day. I actually feel SOOOOO much better. My job has definitely helped cuz I am in meetings and very, very busy with ppl around me all the time so I dont have time to dwell on what I am feeling if I am feeling bad I have to suck it up. Today I have only taken 2 tabs. WOOOOOHOOOOO I am so happy cant wait to be off of these horrible pills they were at the verge of ruining my life and I was lying and doing horrible things that made me feel so bad cuz I am not that type of person. angie1609 How long do the leg pains last? I feel them during the day but not as bad, I think cuz I am walking but at night your body is still. Everyday I am thanking God for what he is doing cuz I would literally plead and beg him to take these pills away and I know that GOD LISTENS, Oh I do have epsom salt and will try that its just that I have to work in the morning and i think it takes so much longer to fill the tub. I also have Hylands and took one at 2:45 and I fell asleep dont know if my body was finally tired of the Hylands did it. I am gonna try to jog in a little bit see if that will help me. I think I am gonna continue this cuz I dont wanna go backwards since tomorrow is the last day for work it will be a little easier for me on Friday night cuz I can stay up late and tire my body. I will also go buy the Potassium n Magnesium. I have Potassium Gluconate is that the same thing? I had been reading these post that is why I had already bought all this I also have valerian root and the L-tryrosine which i have not opened. thank you for being here i appreciate that,
You can do this, just keep on pushing. I know it's hard and seems bad right now, but I promise it will get better. Totally know exactly what you mean about the pain/pulling sensation in your crotch area on the very inside of your legs shooting down. I had that exact problem, and it made me want to scream and pull my hair out. I assumed I was the only one who has experienced that...I usually only hear about just leg pain. BUT I did find something that actually helped. Have you tried taking a hot epsom salt bath? Not just a plain hot bath...has to have epsom salts. By the time I got out, all the pain, pulling sensations, and restlessness were gone. Please give it a try. And when you start to feel it again, hop back in!
I also agree-you're experiencing moderate withdrawals because you're on a pretty fast taper. I think you should either do a very slow taper to let your body adjust, or just go ahead and jump since you're already experiencing these WDs.
Hang on! You can do this, you are strong!
Feel free to PM me if you'd like to talk
With a taper that fast, you're going to feel awful! Either slow it down without such a huge drop in dose or eliminate them completely...
Definitely use a heating pad for your legs. Also, tabs of Magnesium and Potassium will help the RLS. There's a product called Hyland's Restful Legs which works well for many people. Increase your fluids, take hot baths with Epsom salt, and be sure to eat whatever you can tolerate. For help with sleep try Alteril, it's an all natural product.
Keep posting and ask questions!
Keep it up you can do it! I know it's horrible; I am on day 3 CT from Roxy. The pain in my legs is unbearable. I just keep taking Advil and heating pads really help. I felt the same way with Lortab; I was taking that many too and they do nothing after awhile! Then I switched to Roxy and ran out 2 weeks early. Be proud of yourself that you have strength to do the taper; that says a lot! Anyway keep going for the prize- a clean, sober and happy life ;-)
HEY look this will be over soon an you are doing it!! sleep is the last thing thats will return, I feared the night for a while AA is a good idea!! I KNOW YOU CAN DO THIS, you are doing it!!!!