Tyro/b6--How to take

[maddogmmm]

I have read all of your posts about L-tyro and b6 etc. Thank you all for infomormation. My question is do you stop all the pain meds. before taking the L-tyro and b6, or do you overlap them. I am currently taking oxycontin 40mg 2x daily and lorcet 10/650 2 3x daily. Should I just go cold or what is the protocol? Sorry if my question is a little confusing. Thank you all in advance for any advice you can give me.----Your Friend----Michael

[Witchywoman]

Groovy, yes, I am pretty sure that I do feel as good as if not better than I did before all the meds. It's hard to remember, 'cause I was on them for 4 or 5 years.  But I do feel good, I get lots of excercise, eat well most of the time (gotta have french fries once in a while, lol).  I have chronic back pain, but it beats all the complications of narcotic abuse. I'll take the back pain over slavery to a pill any day.

Lanas, how are you feeling? Any better yet?

love,
WW

[Jack Frost]

Groovy,

You say you are using the buprenex ( Temegesic ). Do you mind me asking how many a day and do you plan to wean yourself off of them. I recently detoxed with buprenex for a couple of days and with a combination of xanax had very little w/ds from a major hydro habit. I would like to do it for good and figured that I would use the Temegesic only for about a week, is this unrealistic? I would appreciate some feedback from someone who has been there. BTW - this drug really seems to be a wonder drug for Hydro addiction.

WW - as usual your advice is right on target. Post surgical pain should be treated accordingly and if involves narcotics so be it. The pain, depending on the surgery and the condition should pass and that is the time to get clean if one feels one is abusing. I would like to add that some conditions simply require large doses of narcotics and if you are in real pain (as oposed to just wanting the euphoric rush of narcotics), you should, well, take your medicine.

Finally, all that I have seen first hand and read indicates Ultram is addictive. My experience is that it was a midly effective pain reliever but did not provide the opiate kick that hydros do. I think it was pitched by the pharmactical companies as a break thru non addictive pain reliever, but it did not pan out that way.

Peace,

jf

[lanas]

Thank you so very much for that post; I cannot tell you how much I needed to hear those specific words. Thanks.

[1fortheroad]

how long have you been clean?  i admire your resolve.  do you feel like you did before all the drugs?  i'm sure you've talked about this stuff, but i missed those threads.

[Witchywoman]

Lanas, your energy level will come back, I promise.  It took about a month after I stopped before I felt fully normal, so you must be just right around the corner.  Those days of feeling so lethargic that walking two feet is a major venture really really SUCK! But they do go away.  I predict within a week you'll be feeling better, especially if you keep up the supplements. Are you taking the minerals as well? They do help. Also..even though it is the last thing you feel like doing, excercise does help bring your energy back faster.  The lack of energy is due to low levels of dopamine and endorphins, and excercise helps boost both, as does the L-Tyrosine.  Just don't give up! You will feel normal again, it just takes its own sweet time.

Confusedgirl, I have to agree with gwh...please don't suffer un necessarily in severe pain.  Even the NA big book talks about how if we have a medical necessity for pain relief, we need to take care of our medical needs first.  See...recovery is not just about stopping the drugs.  Ultimately, it is about changing our relationship with the drugs, so that if we need them we can take them without getting sucked in to the compulsion.

A few months ago I had a killer migraine that had lasted 5 days, and I went to the ER.  I told them I was off narcotics and didn't want narcotic treatment, so they tried several other things that did nothing. Eventually I gave in and they gave me a small dose of morphine that did work.  I had been clean a few months at that point, and I did not count it against my clean time, because it was medically necessary, and it did not trigger a compulsion to return to narcotic abuse.
And you just had surgery! Go easy on yourself, heal up, and then get off the meds.  I don't know what kind of surgery you just had, but I'm told by my doc that if you are in severe pain, surgery takes longer to heal.

take care,
love,
WW

[OxyDout]

God, please don't suffer in fear of addiction, you need to take care of yourself first.  However, if you use a minimal amount of the methadone then you should be ok.  Write back, let me know what you have, are they wafers?? if so what color, or are they pills? viles?? let me know so I can be here for you.  Trust me this will work out, but please don't put yourself through this torture. post back. I will be here.

GWH