Tyro/b6--How to take

[maddogmmm]

I have read all of your posts about L-tyro and b6 etc. Thank you all for infomormation. My question is do you stop all the pain meds. before taking the L-tyro and b6, or do you overlap them. I am currently taking oxycontin 40mg 2x daily and lorcet 10/650 2 3x daily. Should I just go cold or what is the protocol? Sorry if my question is a little confusing. Thank you all in advance for any advice you can give me.----Your Friend----Michael

[confused.grl]

Well i just got home from the hospital this morning, wow was that an challange, after my surgery i woke up with a pca with morphine (this coming from the same doctor i went to and told him not to perscribe anymore narcotic), but i was in so much pain that i had to use it . then 3 dys later i asked him to d/c it. Later that dy (sat) they took it out and wanted to give me methadone, but i was so scared to take it after reading all the horror stories on this site so i refused. By sat. night i tried to use the bathroom i was in so much pain the nurses couldnt get me off the toilet, they called in the doc. and he said i have to take the methadone at least while i was in the hospital, so i did. But now im at home with 90 methadone on my dresser and im in bed in total pain.

[GOD]

Sorry if I sounded "Preachy" about the Ultram use, it's just that Ultram had me by the you know what! Anyway, about your question about physical withdrawls-- yes, I'm pretty sure that Ultram has MAJOR physical withdrawl potential because even on the manufacturer's own website, its says it is only to be taken for less than 2 weeks. I think they know how addictive it really is!

Hope you have a great day! It is pretty nice out... At least here in the midwest....

[lanas]

From my own experience, yes, you could be experienceing w/d.  I, too, have gotten off vics and then within a month, taken ultram for a short period of time and then quit and had w/d symptoms.  They were not bad, but definitely had them.  I agree with jessesarpy that ultram is very addictive and I also think the company knows this.  I know several people in the medical field who all strongly believe unquestionably that it is very addictive--of course, even the compnay is now saying it does show potential for abuse "in some persons."  Anyway, as with all drugs, people will react differently, but this was and has been my experience going from vics to ultram.  I agree that ultram does not give me a high, but it keeps me from feeling energyless and it kept the w/d from vics away.  Now, I'm going it without anything and honestly, the lack of energy is about to kill me.  I'm doing well in every other respect but, as I recall reading in a post quite some time ago, this thought that just getting up and going to bathroom and back is mind-numbinglyt overwhelming--well, I'm going on a month of this and I can hardly stand it.  But I'm not going back to the drugs.  I've come this far and DON'T want to have to go through *this* again.  There has to be an end somewhere, right?

[mckr]

HI all
    been off the meth 7mnths but still no energy head in bits most of the time,cant say im depressed as i feel happier than when i was using,still got mild aches in head and legs but this is common i hear,was on it 16yrs any suggestions thought of prozac etc but everything ive researched has too many negatives.
il never use again but its starting to become a bore I WANT MY HEAD BACK.HELP
  MCKR

[lanas]

All of what you said is so true.  The stupid thing is, I was really high energy long before I started the vics, so my whole life has been structured around having tons to do all the time.  So now, here I am, with TONS that I HAVE to do and I can barely walk from my desk to the filing cabinet (it is 4 feet away).  This is the worst part! I had all the other symptoms, but this has been the worst part--I suppose b/c the other symptoms were so limited in duration and this just goes on and on and on and on...  but I keep thinking that I WAS high energy before and those who have quit for longer-term say you do get back to normal.  I just hope it happens soon b/c between my job, my 4 year old, and the other ridiculous commitments I have made, I'm going to never make it at the rate I'm going (and I simply mean I'm going to have to take sick leave from work or something--I'm really not keen on going back to the drugs--I don't want to face THIS again).  Anyway, I guess I am really understanding better what otehrs have said about the worst part being NOW, not the first 72 hours...

[1fortheroad]

i know what you mean about being tired.  that (plus the depression) is always what gets me in the end.  most professionals say it's only a couple weeks that you will feel that way, but then everyone here (including me) feels the lethargy lasts MUCH longer.  i've been taking the amino acids religiously for 2 weeks now, and i really feel they help with the energy a bit - not a ton, but something is better than nothing.  plus, i'm still on the buprenex - that definitely helps.  but, it does get boring doesn't it...the lack of get-up-and-go?  i wonder WHEN that really comes back, or IF it ever fully comes back.