any help would be helpfull

[lovedafam]

I am currently taking 200-240mg of oxycotin a day by snorting all but 1 pill, i know rediculous, but here is my question, i want to start eating them, and only 2 a day, is it possible, and what should i expect? I usually crush 3-4 in the morning when waking up, then a few more through the day and then a half of a 40 at bed, i would like to get to the point that i can eat one in the am and eat one at bed, i have never before consumed them properly, except for the 1 at lunch why i dont know,,,, but can this be done and again what should i expect and for how long, a friend says i wont be that sick as i am eating them so they will be in my system anyways and release slowly into the body,,,is he full of ****, or is he right???? any and all insight would be helpfull, please no referal to methadone, not interested and i dont have any idea where to find suboxin, i have tried.....thank-you... also tapering slowly isnt an option.....come Friday I would like to go to 2 a day, yes by choice not because i wont have enough to continue.....i wanna do 2 a day for awhile then 1 then hopefully off

[lovedafam]

Actually come Friday i can do 3 a day for awhile, then 2 for awhile then 1 for a bit then off, i hope, I am just wondering as i have never taken them orally, properly, started crushing and snorting, just wondering if i start eating them will it hold off the WD's? and if not what should i expect since i am eating them instead of snorting them....When i speak of doing 200-240mg its all 40mg oxy;s, i stopped doing any green monstors at all....

[ImDONENoMore]

If you continue taking the opiates, you won't experience withdrawal because you haven't removed the drugs from your system.  As I'm sure you know, snorting these meds is causing all kinds of additional problems.  Have you thought about quitting for good?

[hopeful_fl]

I have known a good deal of people in your situation and from my experience anthing snorted although it may hit your system faster it usuallly doesnt last as long. like anything esle in addiction you have already made a plan and that part is good now just work you way toward it your friend is right when they are consumed they are made to realease slower in your body and that will help with the wd's just work your way in that direction by gradual change over then when you are taking everything orally you can then start weaning your way down  on the mgs hope this helps

[ImDONENoMore]

Oops - okay, you'll experience some withdrawal as you lower your dose, so if you feel confident that you can taper, that should help limit the intensity of your withdrawal symptoms.  Do you have someone you trust that can dole out the slow decrease in your meds as it can be really tough to do this on your own.

[lovedafam]

Yes there is someone who can dole out my meds, and yes they can be firm, I have crushed 6-7 a day, for about 2 wekks, prior to that i crushed 10-15 a day, i got my crush amount down and yup it was horrible, well not that bad but noticible...Yesterday I swallowed 2 and crushed 5, today i will crush one (already did) and eat 3, tomorrow, i will crush none, and only eat 3, then in acouple days i will only eat 2 a day for a while then down to 1 for awhile......I am still kind of wondering what to expect willl i be able to function half decently, or am i going to be a couch potatoe? As i said any advise would be helpfull, the only option i dont want is methadone, no that there is anything wrong with it, just not for me, as for suboxin i tried to find some on the street, thats hard to do...i have every friend on the look out but so far nothing..

[ImDONENoMore]

Well, from what I've read, suboxone should only be considered when it's prescribed by a Dr. and with a very strict program in place - getting it off the street and trying to use it on your own should NOT be done.  And since you have started to taper down, you're already experiencing the withdrawal so it will continue like that as you cut down further.  I'm glad to hear you have someone you trust who can help you through this process.

Try not to obsess too much over what's to come, that will only make things more difficult.  Remember that you're doing this for your health and your body will continue to adjust to this change.  But there all good changes - it will feel like you have a really bad flu for a while once you're off them for good.  So just take it slow for a while and tell yourself that you're healing during this process so that should help you keep the right mindset.  :)

[lovedafam]

I understand i shouldnt look fo rsuboxin on the street but a 4 month wait to get into a clinic does no good either, I realize snorting them is bad, i realize it hits you all at once, but im not looking for a high, Im looking at eating them to simply maintain, insead of snorting every hour on the  hour, if i eat them i hear they last longer in the system, I understnand i would have some WD's but eating them how bad is it going to trully be? I have tried cold turkey twice and neither time did it work, I made it day 2 and that was it, I have already brought my consumption down over the last few weeks,I have a question what is this parachute them??? yes i am alittle slow, as i said i have only done these for a year and a half just snorting, first time eating was last night, best sleep i have had in along time....

[ImDONENoMore]

lovedam - we can not tell others here how to take their DOC.  It's against policy.  Just try to focus on your taper and stop the snorting - you know it's bad for you okay?  And there are a ton of home remedies to help you get through withdrawal - healthy alternatives and they help a lot.  Good luck to you - you can DO this.  Worrying about the withdrawal will only make it worse.  You'll feel bad for a few days physically and with the right counseling and coping skills, you can get through the mental side of withdrawal with time.

[lovedafam]

I am not asking for anyone to tell me how to take my DOC, i am going to eat them properly, and hope that keeps the WD at bay a abit, Im just not sure what the parachute thing is, I am new to all of this and havent heard of that yet, i started snorting 80mg's, and have stopped that and only snorted 40's, got down to only 5-6 a day, now want to eatr them instead 3 a day for a while, then 2 a day for a while, and then 1 for a while, then hopefully off.....just want to do it all in the short time

[ImDONENoMore]

Okay good - continue the taper and that should help lessen some of the withdrawal symptoms.  And look into aftercare - getting off the drugs is one battle, staying off of them is quite another.  But it's totally doable and it's great that you want to quit so feel good about that!!  And you didn't mention if you were taking these for pain or recreationally, so if it's for pain, look into alternative methods of pain management (physical therapy, OTC non-narcotic pain meds, exercise, that kind of thing)  Good luck to you!  :)

[vicki595]

Hi again--  Actually,I like your plan very much!  Stick to that and keep your support person close!

I don't think you'll be miserable at all. You may actually do much better. When you take the pills orally,it's a little longer to feel the effect(so be patient!!) but the effect will last much longer so that is good for you!!
When you taper down,be sure to stay at the tapered dose until you feel good there,how ever long that takes. Then drop again...

You may get a little restless,I'm not sure...Just be sure to eat well,and drink plenty of fluids!


Stay in touch and best of luck to you!

[lovedafam]

thank you very much, i ate my first one at bed instead of snorting it, and actually slept better than i have in ages and woke up not sick, thats unusual but well welcomed....i just took my morning 1 we will see how it goes, just gotta figure out how long it takes to start noticing i ate it...so use to snorting where it hits me immediately......but i appreciate your help ty

[vicki595]

Sure!  You'll find it really DOES work better by mouth. It's much healthier,also!  It generally takes ABOUT 20 mins. orally.  If you don't think about it,you'll notice it more!

Keep it up...NO CHEATING ALLOWED!   LOL

[lovedafam]

I won't cheap. I am determined this time, and the funny thing is  i have enough to do as i please, but i want to do this, Some one said something earlier about parachuting, i am as dumb as a bull but catch on quick, just curious what it is? I wont do it...just wondering what it is. I appreciate all of your help Vicki595, How long roughly will each pill last when taking it properly, i realize the 20-30 min thing, Like i said i i ate my first one last night at bed, and just ate my morning one, and it seems likei didnt miss a beat, it's weird by now i would have had to snort at least 3...so i am happy, i just hope all works....i plan on keeping as busy as i can, to answer your question or someone elses i have been perscribed them for years just never did them till about a year and half ago with a friend, when i gurt my back, he tossed me an 80mg, and scraped it up, next morn i felt like ****, so he tossed another, well we all know where that went to, i started filling my scripts, i was upto 15 80's a day and in a year have gotten down to no more than 6 scrapes a day, now i am eating them, i notice there isno high, but i am not sick, and dont hurt, so i think i can do this. I dont plan to do anything once i can get off of them, should never have trusted my friend as i knew he was an addict...i know that sounds bad not ment to put anyone down as i am an addict myself, you would have to know my friend to understand why i said what i did

[lovedafam]

I keep hoping i could catch the flu or a really bad cold but no such luck and i have tried, in cold weather not dressed proper, in the house no socks or slippers, work in the cool basement with out foot wear...lol....i tried.......i thank all for there advice, it has been great

[lovedafam]

So with going from snorting(6 a day) only to eating only eating(3 a day) what WD should i expect, if any? and if i do have some how long would your you think they would lsdt, I sm simply looking for your opinion please, also what is parachuting? someone made refrence to it,but i dont know whst it is, not saying i will do it, just curious

[ImDONENoMore]

lovedam - my hope is that you don't misunderstand what I'm about to say - but why do you keep asking about it if you don't plan on doing it?  Come on, let's get real here.  You know you can't do the snorting thing anymore and you need to stay on the plan you've chosen.  Vicki's right - it's a good plan so keep going and don't look back.  You are on your way to getting healthy - and that's all that matters right?

[lovedafam]

I understand about worry about the WD's will make it worst, but i am one of those guys that if i know what to expect it will make it easier for me, i know sounds weird but it's how i think. I am mind set that i can do this, I was snorting 6 a day at most, so now im eating 3 a day, i know eating them last longer, i ate my first one at bed instead of snorting and woke up feeling 10 times better than i have in along time, waited acouple of hours then took breakfast...it took a bit but then banb i fkt better, actually i shouldnt say bam, it actually crept up but i did feel better without realizing it, I know i can do this, just wondering what to expect, if anything, and second, not sure if it was you that mentioned the parachute thing, but i have no idea what parachute is, not saying i will do it, just wonder what it is....

[lovedafam]

I just got your post...the reason i ask is out of curiousity, never heard of it before... i sent a post that explains me alittle, I am one of those guys who has to have the answer to things he doesnt know....

[ImDONENoMore]

OMG lovedam you're killing me here - no, it was NOT me who brought up that whole stupid parachuting thing - and it doesn't MATTER what it is okay?  Just keep going like you have been - stay focused on what you know you have to do okay?  And the rest will follow.  Hang in there.  :)

[lovedafam]

Sorry, i tried to explain myself, i see knowlege, i read books that only contain something i can learn, i ask if i dont understand or have no knowledge in the area of what is being spoken, Alot of my friends have gotten to realize this is how i am, so I apologize for frustrating you, just the way i am, i can look it up online, but just thought i would ask...yrs i am sticking with my plan,,again just wonder if i will have WD and if so how bad and how long..i know no one is a doctor, just looking for opinions....

[ImDONENoMore]

No problem.  :)

[vicki595]

I'll have to send you a PM about parachuting...I don't want to give ideas to others.  :)

I really think you'll be okay as far as w/d's go. Here's why: When you swallow,you're not spiking your dose. It stays level for 3-4 hours so that's a good thing.  If you find you're feeling anything uncomfortable then you might up the dose by 1/2 of a pill. But,I really think you'll be okay. The snorted drug is metabolized very quickly so you need more sooner. It's all an experiment really...we'll just go by how YOU feel. And so far you feel fine,not high,just fine. And that's a good thing!!

[lovedafam]

I do feel fine, it's 1:00pm and i took breakfast around 9:00am and still feel okay, alittle leg sore, but nothing masive or unliveable, i want to hold of till around 3 or 4 to have lunch then bed around 10 or 11pm.... I think i can do this, yes it may be hard but i think i can.....thanks for all the encouragement, much appreciated  L&R