any one new to the fourm,and lurking / open fourm

[hippy]

i was wondering if there was anyone new to the fourm
who might be lurking and reading, i wanted to welcome
anyone who is just reading the post, and if you had any
questions we could answer regarding getting off opiates
such as vikes, percs, hydro, oxy, lorcet. it's all the
same  in the end. they all steal your life from ya,
they promise everything then  damm you with and emptiness,
ans unhappiness.


peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ronsin]

I am fairly new, I have reading for about 2 months but not posting much. I live in Philadelphia & it's very important that I get in touch with you. When you get a chance Please e-mail me at ***@**** . thanks.

[FLAMES]

THANKS FOR ASKING & OFFERING HELP.
I FOUND THE SITE A FEW WEEKS AGO & WROTE ALITTLE BIT ABOUT WHATS GOING ON WITH ME.IHAD GOTTEN IN THE HABBIT OF TAKING A COUPLE OF MY WIFES METHADOSE FOR MY BACK EVERY DAY OR SO.THIS HAS PROBALY BEEN GOING ON FOR 8 MONTHS OR SO. SHE RAN LOW & I DIDN'T TAKE ANY FOR A FEW DAYS & FELT WORST THAN ****.I AM A RECOVERING ALCOHOLIC SO I PUT THINGS TOGETHER PRETTY QUIK & STARTED READING UP ON THIS STUFF & FOUND THIS SITE.THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE!!!!
MY QUESTION IS OR MY PLAIN IS.... IAM NOW TAKING 20MG A DAY STARTING MONDAY TO 15MG A DAY,THEN THE NEXT MONDAY 10MG A DAY,
IS A 5MG A WEEK TO BIG OF A DROP OR WILL IT WORK??? I CAN'T GO AHEAD & COLD TURKEY ,I HAVE TO WORK & TAKE CARE OF MY WIFE IJUST WANT RID OF THIS ****. I'VE DONE REAL WELL WITH THE BOOZE 3YR'S
SOBER , JUST PLEASE GIVE ME SOME POINTERS ON THIS STUFF
        THANKS EVERYONE FOR WRITTING IN,GOD BLESS

[movingon]

hello hippee

I'll take you up on your offer. Thanks. I found this site a few days ago.  I have been taking about 80 mg of Oxycontin and 80 mg of Hydrocodone for about 2 years as a result of a car accident where I broke my back.  I don't know how relevnat it is but I have also been what most consider a heavy drinker for quite a while (I'm 43).  I've decided  to try and kick the habit and I'm just looking for some advice on how to get started.   I'm still in a fair amount of pain but I'm tired to death of watching the clock and the next pill whether I have the pain or not.  I tried to just stop and that lasted less than a day.  I've read this forum for a few days and it give me encouragement to try but also scares me. I wonder if it is harder to kick taking two drugs rather than one.  I think my doc would up the dose of Oxy if I dropped the Hydro.  There seem to be a lot of drugs out there to consider - ambien, clonidine, xanax, darvol and methodone although nobady has anything good to say about meth.  I don't knwo if I should attempt outpatient or inpatient or neither.  I have a lot of job and family (4 kids) responsilbilities so I can't be non- functional for any great length of time.  I know I have to see an addiction doc but I'd like to be a little better informed so I don't get steered down a path I shouldn't go. It would help if I knew the besat and worst I could expect.  I greatly appreciate any guidance or advice you (or anyone) may wish to share.


movingon (eventually i hope)

[Diesel girl]

I am the opposite, knowing what to expect is worse for me.  I fear alot of it I will bring on myself just from my head messing with me. How long does it take from your last dose til you really start feeling the pain? Also, alot of people I have talked to from my clinic say it m ight not be that bad because I haven't been on it to long others say it will because I am at a pretty strong dose.
You also said  you were curious about the 30 day detox, my clinic gives out Administrative Detoxes. That is either a 14 or 30 day detox depending basicly on how mad you have made them. I missed 2 of my dr.s' appointments and 2 weekends with a verifiable and reasonable excuse and they say that I have the attitude that I don't want treatment, I mean I missed other days too after talking to the Dr. of problems I was having and I wanted my dose lowered and she says that it is just the side effects, if I have to deal with the side effects I have, I don't want to be on it.  Granted it did help clean me up and get my life somewhat back in order but, I can't stand the staff and the way I feel also I want to add to the other persons post, that you pretty much have to prove your an addict there too, well at least through a blood test and a detailed check up  of your arms and stuff, for tracks, we also get couseling too, but it is horrible, and I don't feel that many of them are really there to help us.  They are completely backwards if you ask me.  They also tell you that they would like for you to be drug free but don't act like they really care in the slightest bit, and pretty much the majority of people I talk to at my clinic will say the same thing.   I remember once my counselor was furious with me for not dosing right and they held my dose and told me to just go home and be sick so I could reinforce the bad feeling. Granted, they only held it that day but it is just the point. It would be nice if all clinics were polite and did what they are supposed to, but that's not the case where I am at. I wish it was.

[MethMan]

Dude.. unlike you, I have not been to the methadone clinic for over 2 months.  Tomorrow, I will add another day to that.
And you are calling ME a zombie?

Since you asked (twice), I will give you the courtesy of my response to your question.

Why am I against Methadone Clinics?
I traded a comparativly small hydro habit for a monster.  Never shot dope.  Personally, if it keeps you from shooting dope that would be cool.  What is UNCOOL is that once the "Dr." allows you into the clinic, asking for more will get you more.  Your comment that your methadone clinic does not do that is impressive.  Afterall, I've only been in 8 other methadone clinics around the US and found them ALL to do the same thing.  You must be one of the lucky ones that found the good ONE out there.  Where is it? Easter Island?
I'm with you bud... instead of all the chances you take to shoot, if you're desire is not to be off and you know you will use again, then maybe it's a good thing.  But like all things in life, each of us can only speak on our own experiences.  Mine obviously is different from yours.  The diversity is cool.  
I respect your opinion, just don't agree with it.  No big deal.  
You also mentioned something about why I use the screen name I do.  Actually, I used it because I didn't think about making up something cool, didn't want to spend the time to think about a good one and just typed something out real quick.
Maybe if I were actively in a Methadone clinic I would have thought about it more and came up with one as good as you did.

Now... a question for you. Would you trade a 12-16 hydro habit for a 40mg methadone habit?

Obviously we're a diverse group.  And with that, different things work for different folks.  I'm just airing out my opinion like everyone else is, in the hope that in some very small way, I can help others like they've helped me.  Actually brother, you've helped me too.  Now I KNOW I'm going in the right direction.

Props,
Mike

[Patrice]

You still didnt aanswer my question, why do you talk **** about the clinic that saved you life, and kept you from shooting dope?????? And I will ask again, why are you still Methman.....I think you need to stay at the NA board, you sound like one of their "zombies" already