any one new to the fourm,and lurking / open fourm

[hippy]

i was wondering if there was anyone new to the fourm
who might be lurking and reading, i wanted to welcome
anyone who is just reading the post, and if you had any
questions we could answer regarding getting off opiates
such as vikes, percs, hydro, oxy, lorcet. it's all the
same  in the end. they all steal your life from ya,
they promise everything then  damm you with and emptiness,
ans unhappiness.


peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lavender blue]

Chatahan, I'm impressed that you can taper off, I absolutely cannot.I've tried. I'll buy a pint, say, instead of a quart, and then pass another liquor store and think how 'nice' it would be to have some wine in the house, and then I just drink it all up.
Good for you! I'm on day 7 now, and nearly off meds. Still can't really wrap my head around a whole life without alcohol, I guess thats where the 'one day at a time' comes in.....

General question: Does anybody have experience will marijauna addiction? My partner is deeply addicted, he is NEVER straight, and basically smokes to get drunk, (he's been clean from alcohol for several years) He is struggling with the IDEA of recovery, but basically this dependance has ended ALL intimacy in the relationship, he is very angry with me for starting a dialog about it, but honestly this guy can suck back a dozen joints of BC bud every day. He KNOWS he is an addict but after 2 days clean, relapsed and started the usual 'pot isn't addictive' line, and becomes verbally abusive. I know this is addiction speaking but I've about had it. Any ideas?
blessings to all,

[puma]

Lavenderblue,

I found my formula for detoxing off the alcohol. I have hypoglycemia, very low blood sugar. That I believe now is what started me drinking besides the usual psychological effects of socializing way back when.

I first switched from Gin TO vokka does not give me as bad of shakes. Then after two days of cutting the Vodka to half pint from the entire Gin bottle, the next two to three days are only a bottle of Hard Lemon which is the same as lemon flavored beer and loaded with sudar that seems to go right into my system.

Then I switch to regular lemonaide and I am off the booze. I just discovered this a little over a month ago and it had worked twice but I still have gotten stressed by about two weeks sober and break down and drink again. tHis time I need to stick to the lemonaide for at least 30 days and then just make sure my vitamins and diet are correct.

I felt like garbage this morning but tonight and a little better. No shakes because I caught the relapse fairly early.

Thanks for wondering. How are you doing with your situation now? I'd like to hear how you are coming along and what you decided. Have you stopped completely yet?

Take care, sorry I am a little spacey, I still get that when I cut way down. Take care and God Bless.

Chatahan.......wildcat

[lavender blue]

Well, if you are quitting again, you probably don't feel too good just now....why can't we get addicted to, like,carrots or something.
You've been through such hell with your illness, good luck with this try. (it took me 15 tries to quit smoking)
blessings.

[koalabear]

I don't know if you will see this because it's 2 days later, but I detoxed meth onto buprenorphine.

I did it faster than I should've, but here's what I did:

I was taking 60 mg meth.  I got a prescription for Lortab and every third day switched a methadone dose with a Lortab until I was down to 5 mg. meth and 60 mg. Lortab.  This only took me 3 weeks, and then I was placed on buprenorphine.  Stopped the others completely.

It is recommended to drop 1-2 mg. of meth per week, but I wanted off.  It made me ill.  I was sick the whole 3 weeks, but in the end it was worth it.

If you can find a doc to prescribe bup, the w/ds from that are supposed to be a walk in the park compared to meth.  (This is what I've been told).  I will be on this indefinitely, since it helps my pain also.

If you need to talk, you can email me at ***@****.

Leah

[puma]

Lavender Blue,

Thank you for the nice comments of encouragement. I took your route at first detox session. This is strickly out-patient of course. I wrote everything down, headaches, neck pain, back pain, seizures, how long they lasted, so on. The delirium tremens when that finally hit day-5, and so on. After three and one half months going to this vitamin freak HMO-SDA clinic I screamed at the Doc and he then called a psychiatrist who insisted since I was having so many seizures, 65 by that time, my ex-boyfriend counted and timed most of them, she insisted I go in-patient at the psych ward. A mix of schizos, psychos, violent criminals and so on, male and female alike. I did for six weeks and was clean for almost two years.

The point being, if you stay around your triggers, wine places etc, long enough, it is too strong a temptation for relapse. I wish you luck, please avoid the holiday spirits, alcoholic speaking and stay sober If you can. I don't have much room to speak right now as I am on my umpteenth relapse and stopping tomorrow. Good luck though and God Bless.

Chatahan.........wildcat

[lavender blue]

Thanks for the caring comments; I'm doing this with my Doctor, She gave me a book on addiction managment to read, interestingly enough I was able to gage my withdrawal response one afternoon, as per this book,  by clutching a pen and paper and writing the details through shakes, twitches, vomiting, panic etc. Most educational....
She was a bit concerned to let me go it alone with such a heavy habit but I really want to avoid detox if I can, don't like the attention.
So far so good.
The programme is: 20 mg doses of valium, 4 per day for 2 days;
                                         3 per day for 2 days;
                                         2 per day for 2 days;
                                         1 per day for 2 days;
And then off. Its supposed to blow you through the seizure-prone days while the alcohol leaves the system, and I believe it is well tested.
The scary part comes after. I'm a chef,so am often surrounded by wine and spirits, (my beauties....) Next event, a 3 day retreat at Thanksgiving(The US one, I'm actually Canadian)where wine will flow....
I will continue to read with compassionate interest, all you very honest people.

Chatahan, I know that heavy-hearted feeling. Whan i was entirely untreated I'd feel it coming and just dispair. Very best of luck, and do consider medical options if you can find a trusted practicioner....everybody has different ways of dealing w/ stuff that suits them best though.