Need help kicking the subs

[LoandTansMom24]

For ANYONE who has kicked the subs, do you think I would possibly w/d less if I followed the amino acid protocol for a month before I finally kick the subs? I have been on them for 4 yrs. and if I would've known then what I know now, I would have just went c/t from the oxys (my d.o.c.) and NEVER got on the subs!! Or I wouldn't have stayed on them this long. I have 3 kids and I, just like most people, want to kick these things and do it as comfortable as possible. Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated!

[LoandTansMom24]

Thanks guys! I REALLY appreciate ALL the info! I REALLY want to be off these things, but I am scared ******** about going thru the w/d. The physical was always the hardest for me. Its a shame though that you are fooled into thinking these things are helping you when, in my opinion, they just prolong the inevitable. 4 years.........I have been taking these for 4 YEARS and I can remember once, MAYBE twice my doc mentioning something about tapering my dose to get off! NO ONE should be on these for 4 years unless maybe you have chronic pain. Still though.........if ANYONE has done the amino acid protocol, please, I would really love to hear your experience. THANK YOU!!!

[TysonRed]

When it comes to suboxone it seems there is a wide variety of experiences as far as how bad the w/d's are. For me compared to methadone or oxycontin, suboxone was physically a little easier but just as hard mentally as any other opiate. I was on sub for about 5months and when I quit I was down to just a tiny sliver each day for about 10days. The first week was tough but it did slowly start to get easier with each day and on day 10 I really noticed a big difference in how I felt. That was the first morning I woke up not feeling like I wanted to take a piece of sub to give me that energy. My advice is to get to the lowest dose possible, I dont know exactly how much of a difference it makes, but I know with other previous detoxes the lower the dose I came off the w/d's didnt last as long, although sub is different from all the other opiates. Like I said day10 was a big turning point for me and when I hit 30days I felt even better. Like most opiate detoxes I still had some lingering issues like depression, fatigue and trouble sleeping but it gets better with each day. Ive always used clonidine when coming off pills, it really helps me relax and lessens the creepy skin crawling feeling. I also used and still do 5mgs of melatonin for sleep, along with tons of immodium for a couple of weeks. To me the immodium is probably the single most important otc med to have during withdrawal. As far as taking the vitamins and aminos before you quit, it certainly isnt going to hurt anything so you might as well try it. I did find that the thomas recipe did help a little with supplying some much needed energy. Just so you know Ive talked with people who have said they had no w/d's at all, some had mild/moderate symptoms and Im sure you've heard of the people who had severe w/d's. We're all so different you never know what your experience will be, but try not to stress yourself out too much about it, you can do it and theres tons of people here that you can lean on for support. I wish you all the best, take care and good luck.

[goldenarm]

That was huge huge accomplishment. Im filled with hope from that for my plan. Thanks alot for posting.

[Michelle_Shawn]

I totally understand what you are going through. I just went through the sub withdrawal and was consumed with fear going into it. I was on subs for 3 1/2 years but only on 2 mg. I have heard to go down as low as possible, for me that didnt work. I had them, I took them. My doc told me I was going to experience mild W/D. There was nothing mild about it. However I promise you it was the best thing I have ever done. I have been sober since dec of 2005 so still being dependent on taking that pill every morning was eating away at me. I wanted to be free so bad but i was so scared of being without it. For me the fear of myself minus any substance was scarier than facing the physical w/d. I wondered if I was going to be the same person....be able to do the same things, from clean my house to being in social situations. I found than it is better than i could have ever imagined. as far as the physical was for me....day 1-5 sucked mentally more than physically. I felt ****** and knew what would make me better. day 5 - 20 were tough. I had good days and really really bad days where i would just cry and cry. but in between i would have a good day which gave me the strength to keep going. At some point it didnt matter. I reached a point where i knew it wasnt worth it to turn back and suddenly the bad days were okay. Its been 60+ days. I am still cold all the time but i feel alive. There are days i am so proud of what i accomplished i am overwhelmed with emotions. You can do this, you owe it to yourself and your kids. I eventually had to think about how long am i gonna go to the doc, hand over the money, and go pick up my pills? I am trying to get pregnant so that was a huge motivating factor for me but eventually i had to pick a day, prepare myself for it and then just stop. I think you are gonna experience the physical no matter how hard you try and prepare yourself, just remember - this too shall pass.