easier withdrawal?

[WPB]

I've been taking lortab/ percocet for 2 years now. 80-100 mgs per day. I know I'm in a downward spiral and I'm trying to correct it. I weaned off these harder ones 2 weeks ago and have replaced them with Darvocet. My md seemed very relieved by this. However, have I actually improved my situation? Is Darvocet easier do w/d from?

[WPB]

Legitimate pain makes this a very difficult situation. I have been through w/d b4 and it can be accomplished. However, I also have back and neck issues. It's trying to control this. Complete abstinance makes me fel like a 90 yr old man. Beat up. There isn't much joy in anything. However, you can't give in and let an adict control his own meds. There will always be more pain or another reason to take more. It's a fine line. My wife has written me off. We still live together, but there is no trust and there are 2 children involved. I won't give up on them. I turned my Darvocet over to her. She has no compassion. She will leave 1 out in the am to take the edge off. If I wanted another for any reason she finds it unacceptable.

[michelle70]

I found out that my husband has been using loritab for over a year and 1/2.   We own our own business so i had to agree to deal with it until after christmas then we would take a few weeks off. He is now in severe withdrawls for day 2. He can't sleep and he is vomitting and diarrehea. I want to be here for him but i am finding that i feel so betrayed that he did this and i did not know. I did notice that he was so moody and withdrawn from me. Didn't want to talk always wanted to be by himself and had no sex drive. For all this time i felt like it was me, i didn't know what was happening.  I busted him buying them and that was it. I have a 10 year old daughter and i was not going to let her grow up like this. She adores her dad and she knows nothing of this. But she has noticed his moodiness and has asked me questions. I just tell her he is working to much and hes tired. He has alot of back pain and his feet hurt him all the time. I am so afraid that he is going to relapse because of his pain. What can i do to help him? I know i am not the one addicted but this has really messed with me emotionally and physically as well. Thanks

[wildwoodone]

I also had a very bad, long detox from Darvocet but it has been years ago and I think I was probably taking 20 a day or so.  

[WPB]

RLS, intense malaise and insomnia are the symptoms right now 48 hrs in. Hope it's over soon.

[worried878]

and taper on off the darvs...10 a day is 6000 mgs of tylenol..not good...get off soon..be safe and take care..getting clean is hard work and aftercare is the key for most

[WPB]

I agree this is a great site. Thanks for the encouragement.

[road2recovery]

Also wanted to let you know that i was taking much more then 10 a day, when i detoxed from darvs, SO you will do GREAT!!!  Just stock up on all the things you need, and try to stay busy.... :)

[road2recovery]

There are alot of us here that cannot share with our significant other, and this is why this place is sooo awesome...I really think you have to have gone through this to understand it exactly.., that is why i picked a counsouler who specializes in addiction...She is also in recovery and understands me...We had to get to some really core issues, that i thought i had forgotten, and really buried...It was tough, but very good for me....
You are giving your kids and your self the best christmas present ever, TO be CLEAN...YOU are doing great!!  Stay Strong, and If you can wean more then great...
good luck to you!!
r2r

[WPB]

3 days doesn't sound as bad as Vics. I got all the Thomas recipe ingrediants and cancelled all plans/ responsibilities.

[WPB]

I appreciate it. 10 a day right now. I plan on c/t (Monday)after weaning down.

[TrayCee]

YEARS ago before I knew anything about withdrawal I was recreationally using 200 Darvocet a month.  I decided not to buy them one month and got really sick.  It was EXACTLY like the flu. (At the time I had no reason not to think it was not the flu.) Last about 3 days.
Your doing great and this will all be over soon.  Youre SOOO close!  Stay strong!

[TrayCee]

how many have you been taking a day?

[WPB]

You guys are really cool. It is an unsharable problem. My signifigant other is a very judgemental person. I have no one else to talk to. My profession doesn't allow weakness. I have 1 wek to clean up my act. I've weaned off the natural opiate. Even with vast amounts of darvocet it was really difficult. Now to wean off the darvocet. Tomorrow I will turn them over to my task master. I didn't want to ruin my kids Chritmas with my sickness today. What kind of week am I looking forward to?

[road2recovery]

I 100% agree with you, that is why i thought i would share my experience with it; But WPB Please don't think this will happen to you!!  I really havn't heard it happen to many, that was why i was very surprised...
Also we see people get addicted to food, gambling, sex, computers, etc, so a very good point you made!!  So good to see you back too, you were very missed!!!

[GA Guy]

It's the sharing that makes us better. People get addicted to anything and everything. Darvocet included. For us to bicker over pharmacology seems petty and unproductive. By the way, it's great to see you!!

[road2recovery]

Excellent post!!  I do know everyone is different..But i wanted to share my experience..My Doc is Lortab, generic are not...anyway, for a few months i was on darvs, and it did have some pain releif, and i thought i was doing much better taking this instead of lortab..But i was still taking more then i should of...anyway, I will say that was one of my worst detoxs ever..I remember having this converstaion with eagle ( i really respect his words, because of all the different experiences he has had)  and he told me that I was not the first one that he had heard this from...I have no idea why it was so bad, but it was...anyway just wanted to share!!!

[worried878]

agree

[GA Guy]

Know what? Why cares. I had 2 years or organic chemistry and could get into all this...but, the question should be..does this drug carry addictive properties like other narcotics. The answer is YES. Who cares if it's an organic opioid from the poppy plant? Who cares if it's a synthetic opiate like Oxy? Too many people get caught up in the terminology. That's why Docs are filling Tramadol scripts like someone is getting candy. Forget terminology, forget the Organic chemistry, ask yourself...will this help or hinder my recovery. Darvocet will hurt it. Enough said.

[TrayCee]

It doesnt have to be a opiate to be addictive.

[worried878]

well...i do know some get addicted to it..very few as the tylenol content invoved in taking a bunch is astronomical...lortab is also synthetic....still a narcotic....many narcs are synthetic/in fact most are..codeine is not nor morphine..but most are synthetic

[TrayCee]

I know, its just my personality.

I'm working on it.

[onthefence]

the fact of the matter is that "propoxyphene" is NOT an opioid. It does not come from the poppy, it is an synthetic drug that is scheduled and is a narcotic . it is  a analgesic in the opioid category .

[Tuck24]

TrayCee.........Sometimes your posts seem very sarcastic.....and this is from the internet.

Darvocet is an analgesic opiate that is commonly used to treat mild to moderate pain. Though it is considered to be no more effective than aspirin in the treatment of pain, users can become drug dependent with prolonged use. In the U.S., Darvocet is available in doses from 30 mg to 650 mg. The drug can be used to ease physical withdrawal symptoms in opiate addicts but is not as effective on mental cravings. Other drugs can interfere with the effectiveness of Darvocet, and some people are unable to metabolize it.

[TrayCee]

"in the opioid category" only makes it a pain killer.

As far as the molecular chemical structure, no its not an opiate.


This is the I N T E R N E T, its very easy to verify this.