help

[chippper]

i recently started doin research on coming off subutex.  I have been sniffing the 8mg tablets for about 3-4 months....in the beginning anywhere from 1-3 a day....for the past week or so im down to 1 8mg tab a day....any idea on how my withdrawal is going to be

[chippper]

refusingbondage: great username by the way.  I know im going to experience some withdrawal.  In the past I have kicked H and I kicked a few months long of 1-2 80s a day, seperate times ofcourse. So I do know what a normal withdrawal is like, but I see on these sites that subutex is so much worse.  Does it become worse because these people are on it for a year or two at a time?  Am I just looking at the normal 4-7 days of sweating and not sleeping and the chills (only symptons I seem to get) or is it going to be this horrid experience like some other users report? I can't keep doing this its to depressing.  As for seeking out meetings, to each is own, but im embarassed by my addiction and wouldnt want anyone else knowing. Not one other person in my life knows about this that is why I chose to seek advice through here.   Im just sick of sitting around and getting high, its not even fun to me anymore.  I feel like Im missing out on everything a person my age should be doing just to catch a nod  Alright Im done blabbing,........I am going to try and keep up with this site...it does feel good to type about this.  Thanks for the input and support..... Appreciated to no end.

[refusingbondage]

I keep hearing more and more about sub being sold on the street and people primarly snorting them.  Ran into an ex family member who deals months back who told me sub is his #1 product.. its in high demand.. Wow.

Well, I dont know chipper.  Seems like you are not going to get out of this without some withdrawal.. bupe (the opiate in subutex) is a very strong opiate.. The good news is you have only been doing it 3-4 months. The even better news is you have decided enough is enough (way to go!) Thats a big step to take.  I would like to suggest getting to a sub doctor, getting a legit script and taking orally (as prescribed) to taper down a bit.. but since this is your way to use, you wont be able to do that most likely..unless you have someone to keep on top of you.. administer them to you.. and make sure you take properly.  If that's not an option then just tough it out.  Dont panic.  Its a lot mental.  If you expect the worst, you will get it. Stay positive and be strong.

I wont lie, you will appreciate having time lay around and withdraw.. Just try to stock up on some good vitamins and amino acids (see Amino Acid Protocol - health pages) get some gatorade, banannas, and immodium.  There is a supplement sold that is mangesium, calcuim and zinc (I think zinc, but def calcium and mag) that is helpful for the restless legs.  Keep posting.  You have a lot of time so post, post post.  Journal your experience (as a reminder).. plus writing is good for the soul (in my opinion).  Stay strong and remember, it wont kill you.  I got through sub w/drawal..so you definitely can!  

Seek some aftercare.. NA meetings are free and..well since you have so much time on your hands. . . .might be worth checking one out.. think about what to do now.  How to CHANGE, not just the fact that you use, but your lifestyle in general.

[chippper]

lisacamdave: Im not getting them from a doctor.....I came across about 100 of these and was subsituting them for other opiates to save money.  I know I shouldnt have been doing this and I know that its a cheap high.  I took my last 2MG today and am just going to do this cold turkey. I am recently unemployed (nothing to do with my addiction) so i have plenty of time to lay around all day and withdraw with no interferences. But as you all probably know it gets pretty boooooooooring laying around.  Even with just a few months of use, you still think it will be a pretty bad withdrawal??

Dominosarah: I appreciate the input.  I know I shouldnt be sniffing these. I know they are for sublingual route.  Either way if you could offer me some positive input regarding my question that would be great. Thank you....

[dominosarah]

Are you getting these from a doctor?  First off you need to quit snorting them......they are to be taken orally.

[liscamdave]

I didn't even know you could do that? Um, not sure to be honest. I know that subutex is pretty much the same w.d as suboxone. And I know that Sub is a tough w.d. Especially at 8mg. You need to get down to less then 2mgs to make your w.d somewhat bearable. But that is MY opinion based on what I have gone through. Some say they don't have any w.d comin off of sub. So I guess it depends. Have your drs told you what to expect? Who is giving you the sub? I know they don't know you are snorting it.