addicted to 300mg roxycodone daily (yep 10 or so 30mg everyday) for 3yrs

[jessicadcb]

New here not even sure if I'm in right place to talk to ppl. I'm a 29 yr old single mom of 2 boys 9 and 5. I started taking them as happy pills they made me super mom...everything was clean cooked and done. Then came the addiction years. I came clean to my doc on Monday he gave me subutex....it didn't even help an inch! I broke down and got some more from my 'guy' but have only taken the tiniest pieces to help withdrawls. I want to get thru this sooo bad everypart of me hurts! I went from 300+ mg daily to maybe 10 mg. I can't lose my boys they dont deserve their mom is a piece of crap for getting hooked. How long will I feel so awful its already been 4 days! I have pills but I keep looking at myself in the mirror and saying my kids names so I will NOT continue the path i was on. I cannot afford treatment centers have no ins. The subutex was 250$ which obviously is nothing to what my habit was! I just need ppl to talk to I guess.....

[wwoman301]

I was taking 30mg Roxicodone for almost 2 years now. Not just me but my bf too sooo needless to say, its been very hard to stop.  I found that tapering off and taking less and less everyday has helped.  Today I started Subutex and finally today I felt almost normal although I don't really remember what normal is!!  But I did go through some horrible withdrawals( diarrhea, vomiting, stomach pains, sweating profusely).  I don't have any children but I do have a dog(my baby girl) and have been feeling soo bad bc she has been stuck in the house bc we have both been so sick.  Today, I actually took her to the dog park and saw how happy she was that it gave me hope that I can do this.  I think with the Subs you have to wait until between 16-24 hours before taking the first one. I didn't get sick as I thought i would.  There are people out there who say that if you are a "snorter" than it is ok to do that with the Subs but I saw my bf do that and it seemed to make him feel worse.  I do agree that alot of it is mental and you do need to push yourself to get thru it.  I was fortunate to have off from work for the last couple of days but I do have a bit of anxiety about going to work tomorrow.  Fingers crossed, that I will make it ok.  Like many, most of my friends, family and co workers do not know i am an addict and also wonder if they will see a difference in me.  At work, thats all they ever known me as.  I am soo scared to do this bc i do not ever want to start again.  Please wish me luck bc i really need to do this!!

[badshadow]

If you take your Sub dose to close to your last Opiate Dose, it will make your withdrawals worse.  It has to be at least 12-24 hours from your last Opiate dose before you should take any Sub.

The Sub can help, but be very careful as it is addictive too.  Try not to stay on it longer than a week.

You will still feel not too good, probably very tired and lethargic, no energy, but as soon as you can try to get out and walk as much as possible.  Even if you can't walk far, try to take 3 or 4 short walks every day.  Also, drink ALOT of water as this helps to flush the medication out of your system.

Try not to get started on a Addictive Sleep Aid, except maybe for the first few days if you really can't tolerate it.  But you say you are doing better now, so that is good.  Just don't take the Sub too long, and you also have to taper that down too before stopping it.  Your Dr. should be guiding you in this I'm assuming.

I have found GABA to be the best for me so for in terms of the Withdrawal Anxiety, and I am taking Dramamine at night along with the GABA to help for Sleep.

I'm still in the Tapering Down Phase, and I'm trying to take it as slow as I can for as long as I can, not months or anything, but I have a 2 week taper I have myself on.

I'm also doing/taking alot of the other Supplements and Minerals that have been suggested here.

We are all in this together here, in different phases of our Withdrawal and Recovery, and I know for me half or more is mental.  There is the physical discomfort and anxiety, which is awful, but I'm trying to keep myself thinking positive because there will be an end to it, I will get clean and sober, and I will get recovery.

I wish you all the best.

[jvette]

Just wanted to chime in and say that YOU CAN do this! I went cold turkey from 400MG+ a day (5-6 80 MG OCs daily) to NOTHING and made it! I wish you the best...you can make it to the other side of this :-)

[pookey285]

I recently had to go cold turkey!!  it only lasted 3 days :)  I walked through the pain.  Excercise, eat and drink, advil, hot baths, amonnium AD for the diarrea.  Sleeping ad for not being able to sleep.  U can do it I promise.  

[jessicadcb]

Ok. I did it! I took the sub and I'm not 'dying' like I thought I would b, but like I said I also went from 300+ mg DAILY roxycodone to like only 10mg a day for three days. I think hope n pray I went thru the worst already. And I talked to the pastor of the church across the street from me....that seemed to actually help!


Ok I started to write this a few hrs ago but then noticed the tire was flat on my car...I am a girl yes but I FRIGGIN MADE MYSELF Get out and put the donut on AND I DID IT I feel like an idiot being proud of myself but I feel better 2day!! Idk if the sub works, or everything every1 said, or bananas water gatorade, the hell I think is over!!! It took I guess 5 days. I'm NOT the same but better...I have to keep making myself get up or whatever but its getting easier...thank u every1 !

[worried878]

The subutex can help but u have to really want this.  U admit ur addiction is out of control and that is a huge first step/an important step that some never manage to make.
Now making a plan that will work and learning as much as u can about this monster called addiction will help.  Did u tell ur dr that the subutex didnt help?  The dose coulda been wrong and u do have to wait til ur in full blown wds to take it.
The health pages r full of great info...the thomas recipe is great and exercise helps alot to release endorphins.  Cutting off supply and having no pills on hand or at the pharmacy is crucial.  Aftercare will help more than anything for most.

keep us posted.  U can do this.  Dont let sumpin smaller than the end of your finger beat u.

[noseed]

Just give it time, i'm on day 10 of quiting cold turkey off hydro 14-16 pills a day,the 2-5 day was the worst.HELL ,But i knew it was only time that could heal me and now i feel better and better every day that goes by,,So the sooner you stop ,the sooner you feel better,give it time and good luck,

[Dav125]

I don't have any personal experience with the suboxone, but from what I've read,it either works for a person, or it doesn't..There are quite a number of individuals in here that have stated that it was the best thing to come into their lives in a very long time. Then you have the "nauts" that say it didn't do anything for them and had wished they had never gotten near the stuff and were experiencing very bad wd's...The fellow in this link below is one that did a taper and then jumped ship into the subs. Not sure how long he was taking the subs. As we speak, HenryS354 is his name:

http://www.medhelp.org/personal_pages/user/569676

Henry is the most vocal individual in this forum at present when it comes to comments about suboxone..Here's a couple more links about subs you might take a look at:

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Addiction-Substance-Abuse/subs/show/1283457

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Addiction-Substance-Abuse/i-dont-know-what-to-do/show/1287745

You can also put "suboxone" in the search bar above which will take you to plenty of suboxone threads..Some are older,some newer. Hope you find this useful..David

[kittycat1433]

I think we all that have children feel like a pile of **** for doing are family this way, i know i do im on sub's and you have to set your mind to it b4 it will work,im still after 7mo craving the hydro's, it had went away but seem's to creep up on me every now and then i think sometimes we just kinda miss the **** that goes along with getting the pill's it is like a secret world,the bad thing with me is my daughter 11 know's what im doing if i get pill's she has it all figured out i tell the truth and tell her it is a road she never want's to take etc... so just see for a couple of mo if the sub  will work u will still have craving i don't care what they say try to ignore it and put your best foot foward i will be hoping and praying for u i know how hard it is just try as hard as u can or you either die or go tru all the w/d hell again and that alone is enough to kill u.kitty.Oh and the xanax work really well for the skin crawling,nerves etc..

[jessicadcb]

Has anyone had subutex work for them? Like I said earlier it didn't touch day one off 300+mg daily roxycodone. Bit now that I (hardest thing ever) cut myself down to 10mg or less for 2 n a half days do u think 5he subutex will start to work 2mrrw?

[jessicadcb]

I didnt take subutex n roxy at same time, I tried the sub on day one off 300+ daily intake of roxycodone and that was pure hell so I broke down got a few and took the tiniest pieces (like less then 10mg in a day for 2days) trying to help but it was still hell. I think, hope, and pray my body went thru the worst. I'm going to start the sub 2mrrw and wheter it works or not I'm gonna have to tough it out. The Dr told me he's never had a patient taking that much trying to quit on their own w/o treatment centers (which I as a single mom could never afford or leave my children anywhere to do that) so he commended me which helped to hear that. He also told me to take my xanax as needed not just nightly and that seems to help a little. One minute I'm tellin myself I can do this and the next I'm freaking out that it hurts so bad I can't. But I do not have ANYTHING in my house for the first time in years! 2mrrw is actually my day one w/o even the tiniest piece....I'm scared. But like I said I hope I went thru the worst from dropping from 300+ mg daily to 10mg or less for 2 n a half days. Maybe hopefully the sub will work now... what does every1 else think?  I take full responsibility I did this to myself and now I have to pay for it, just my boys (my babies!) Don't deserve their mom to be an addict. I go thru this hate myself one min then feel bad for myself......I am such a mess!

[jstntime]

Hey again,

I'm sure no sub expert but I really think that doing both roxys and sub can make wd worse.  Perhaps someone around here can help with this.  My only expertise is wd from oxy's the old cold turkey way.

I know you are feeling it now but keep babbling, it really does help with the mental "crazies" to have like minded speak chat with you.

Hang in there, pulling hard for you,

bob

[jessicadcb]

Well guess I did a good/bad thing. Got rid of the 'stash' but sold em so atleast I got a few $ now. These things are the devil to ppl with addictive personalities like me. But I have NONE in my house for the first time in years! Maybe that's one stepping stone walked across!

[jessicadcb]

I have noooooo get up n go.I havent got out of my chair in hours. How can I make myself thru this?? I really have hit rock bottom that's y I'm here. I have no $(although I have that stash...but I swear to myself I am done...I will not touch em except that tiny piece to help and 2day was last day of that) , I feel like the worst person in the world, y did I do this to myself?? 2mrrw the subutex has to help or I don't know what ima do!!! This is so hard to go thru alone and b a single mom. My poor boys think I'm just sick, but I'm withdrawling. Guess this is the depressed babbling part coming out now...

[jstntime]

Roxys are immediate release and oxycontin is delivered over 12 hours.  The active ingredient is oxycodone which is the same in both and also found in Percs.

Anytime "contin" as in oxycontin or mscontin (morphine) it means "continuous" as in delivered over time at a continuous rate.

Hope this helps,

bob

[Ballgame]

Dumb question. Are roxys=oxys?

[jessicadcb]

To ballgame yes flush them! I know I'm not the one to give good abuse advise but having them is just gonna b in ur head that they're there and ull take em unless ur reallllly strong like I'm tryin to b.
To bob thanks the more ppl who share the better I feel. 2day is gonna b my last day of the little piece ordeal then 2mrrw I will try the subutex again. I didn't do both at same time but the first day off 300+ mg was hell! and I couldn't do it! I think now that my body has gone thru the worst (god I hope that was the worst) maybe the sub will work. It has to anyway I am going to do this! (I have to tell myself that) I just feel like I'm a piece of crap for this!

[jstntime]

Hey,

You can do this Jessica!!!

If you are taking sub you should not be doing roxys too.  It is my understanding that sub is supposed to take care of the wd symptoms.  Perhaps you need a dosage adjustment.

I do understand wd having detoxed from a slightly higher amt than you.  I sure don't say that to brag but merely to show you that I can commiserate and understand exactly how you feel.

You really need to dig in and just get it done.  I know that is way oversimplified but it's the truth.  The madness only stops when YOU say it does.  Throw out those roxys they are NOT going to help you.

Keep posting and leaning on many of the great folks around here for support.  You are worth it Jessica to figure this out.

bob

[Ballgame]

I'm in day 5! Feels like a month. I was given 30mg x3 and feel awful, knowing this way is going to take a long time I flushed some pills and now only have enough for once a day. Not sure that was a good move because of the way I feel.  

If you only have a week you have to be really aggressive. I still think you should be a dr and get help with the withdrawals.  Good luck.  If you really wantthis to end you just take your current med (not oxy) and just deal with the withdrawal. If you started Monday cold turkey then you're almost half way there.

[jessicadcb]

Thx I only have a week left that I can take off from work. I beat myself up so bad for doing this to myself. By next Sunday (the 1st) I have to b able to function, and right now that looks like 2mrrw! I have 2 friends who know the whole truth, but most of my ppl (family)think its just withdrawls from perc5's 3x daily that I really was prescribed for months. I don't have anywhere to go I still have to pretend 'mommy just doesn't feel good' to my boys. How long have u been tapering? And how's that going?

[Ballgame]

Sorry to hear that. The main thing is you are starting to move forward. I'm tapering off 50mg x3 a day. It's brutal so I know how you feel.
As for having it end will take about 14 days. I know that's a LONG time to feel this bad. Can you go somewhere they will help you taper off slower?

Just remember it's for your kids. Stay strong and don't go back to 300.  I'm struggling too so I understand. Good luck

by the way posting here has really helped me