hydro withdrawel

[bull172]

i have been taking 55 mg's of vicodin for the past 3 years......20 mg's  in the morning.....15mg's in the afternoon.....and 20 mg's in the evening.....

i have to quit!

i havent taken any in 24 hours....i also have been taking 2mg of xanax for past 10 years.....the xanax are elping me get off the vics.....i feel like ****....i wanna pop my  pils  (i have 300 of them)   but i wanna be free from this disease......what should i expect?  am i out of the woods yet?   will this withdrawel process get any worse than it already has in the past 24 hours?

[Daakon]

Hello I'm trying to quit hydro and the withdrawels I'm having are sweating to no end chills no sleep at all hardly I can't stop going to the bathroom and my body aches all over I've been taking pills about eight months on average I took about six a day sometimes more somtimes less and my mom gets 120 percs a month and that's the worst time cause then ill take around thirty of those I need a time frame on how long this is gonna last I really want to be myself again thanks!

[Decisions]

Isn't that weird?  I feel the same way. I have headaches, and refuse to take Tylenol. Without my DOC, how "dare I swallow Tylenol?"
well, that's the human mind...

[bull172]

no taper for me....COLD TURKEY!    I HAVENT HAD A CIGG OR A VICODIN IN 66 HOURS!

I feel like i beat it already.......

i have a headache today and just took a advil pill tht had to be atleaset 4 years old.....woul dyou guys recommend taking any tylenol?   being that it was a main ingrediendt in vics  im a lil reluctant to take tylenol

[paul300]

300 pills? wow. i had a similar situation but not quite the stash, in fact i was running out and was tired of thinking of new sources.

i do not recommend any alcohol for at least a month, if not more. for me it triggered the cravings and anxiety. i still get some after a drink or two. if you can taper quickly, hold on because you can expect some sleepless nights and potentially extreme anxiety. after a week, i began taking vitamins (sources of info in this site) and helped tremendously with fatigue.

if in doubt, please see your doc. life is too short to wear blurry glasses.

i wish you all the best.
david

[FlyFisher100]

What you were using was almost exactly what I was using.  Here is what I did.  I you have the discipline to taper, this will work and keep you from other abuses because you feel like ****.

After having notified my Dr's not to write any more scripts, I worked w/my personal Dr. on this taper:

I dropped from 60mg to 37.5mg overnight.  I felt a little crappy but went and got some SAMe at the supplements store which helped w/my mood.  It took exactly 4.5 days for my body to adjust to such a sharp drop.  I stayed on the 37.5 for 8 days.

I then dropped to 30mg and stayed there for 10days due to being on a vacation and not at home.

I than dropped to 20mg and stayed there for 5 days and then dropped 5 mg/day for the next 4 days to get completely off.

I still went through W/Ds but had nothing that involved being in the bathroom, no headaches, only fatigue and some sleep issues.

See my post titled "Holy **** Do I Feel Good" for what I'm doing now.

I am on day 8 today, feel great, high energy due to the supplements listed and slept like a baby from 10 pm to 5:30 this morning and bounded out of bed like a deer.

Good Luck.  It ***** but as Winston Churchill said:  "this too shall pass".

[Florida_Guy737]

wow...I admire your goal setting.  quitting 3 habits is going to take some work and your body will be screaming at you.  I agree with worried...exercise is a very healthly substitute if you can handle it.  I don't recommend anyone exercise while taking meds suchs as benzos or opiates because injuries can easily occur and you'll be right back where you started, e.g. pain meds for your injury(s).  But, if you can exercise, even short walks and can set some goals in this area, this healthly alternative would probably take your mind off from your addictions.  The 300 stash is worrisome...as others have said, if you havethem, you will probaly end up taking them.  Be careful and good luck...will be interested in your story as you progress towards recovery.

BTW - I don't drink so can't help you with the wine issue...

Guy

[worried878]

Staying busy and exercise can help aot for me...a glass of wine here and there should not hurt...but u stated that u had not had a drink in years...if u used to have an alcohol problem..i would not sugest a glass of wine as with us 1 pill is never enuf and for an alcoholic..1 drink is never enuf...be safe and keep posting

[bull172]

UPDATE----

its been 63 hours since my last dose....i just woke up from a full nites rest...8 hours!    i feel weak...the RLS is gone....still seezing.....have mild mild faint headache.....but my stomach hurts....i donkt know if its WD or just the fact that ive been eating ike a garbage disposal....anyway i wanted to keep you guys and gals updated on my progress!  

I FEEL FREE FROM THIS MONKEY!

It wasnt that hard to do either, and you know what?  the whole time i had a bottle of 60  10/325's   lookin me in the face (which have now been flushed)   i have about 240 more pills at my sisters that needs to be flushed

For those who are trying to do this....YOU CAN DO IT!  ITS NOT THAT HARD!   JUST TAKE THE STAND AND JUST STOP TAKING THOSE PILLS!    

I dont now if i shld go to work today or not....my stomah hurts but i can use the fresh air and get out of the house...keepp my mind busy.....my mind has been f-ing with me......it wants its vicodins.....shows/games....stuff i used to watch while popping my vicodin when i see them now its weird....but i will never ever again take another narcotic pain reliever.....if i get shot in the head and wind up in a hospital i would not want any kind of narcotic pain relievers ever again......

im just a bit scared though now......the past 3 years i wentfrom being a boy to a man....started to make more money......created a family, home...the whole nine....now im scared that being off the vicodin, maybe i cant make as much money as i did before (sales)   or on the othere side of tht coin, maybe i can make a ton mor money.....idk.....just some stuf that has been bouncing around in my head

[bull172]

oh by the way...MY LEGS ARE KILLING ME!   BADLY!   should i take tylenol?   its really the only thing bothering me, and i can handle it bc i have had RLS  since im 15 (long before vicodin)

[bull172]

update-

it has been 48 hours since my last dose of vics.......i had a rough nite last nite (read above)   but i came home, napped and woke up feeling MUCH better.....sneezing has started to diminsh....my stomach feels like i should have the runs, but the xanax are covering that up good for me.......so far tdy....very little mental craving....my stomach has stopped that "yurning" feel......been eating all day.....i feel like i got passed the worst of it.......

for any of those who live near a beach.....get your asss up (if not awake alrdy)  and go watch the sunrise......IT IS AMAZING FOR THE MIND AND SOUL!

[untwisting]

My experience has been that I abuse all substances - so be careful with the wine. I do love a good Merlot though! As Missy said, the worst physical w/d is about a week. Advil helped for the body aches/headaches, imodium for the runs (not everybody gets 'em) and herbal sleep aid if you're off the xanax too. I still have trouble sleeping. Warm milk is my best night time friend but not everybody can endure the taste. You're taking on alot at once - maybe focus on one addiction at a time to set yourself up for success. However you do it, you're in my prayers.  Enjoy the sunrise!

[bull172]

well  i went and bought my wine.....i only had 1 glass and it was DELICIOUS. The buzz from the wine actually elimanted my stomach yurning for vics for a while. Well it is now 2:43 am  ET  and im up....i took 1.25mg xanax at 10 pm ...passed out till about 1:30....now i cannot sleep....my body has no urges.....i am sneezing non stop....blowing my runny nose....and my legs ache a little bit.....really not that bad......its just the restlessness thats the worst....gonna try to read a nice book....if that doesnt get me back to sleep im taking a drive to the shore to watch the sunrise...havent done that in 10 years

[flamingogirl1]

i just wanted to say good luck to you, i am trying to quit oxycontin myself and it has not been easy so good luck to you i quit vicdins cold turkey befor ebut that was when i only took them for about 5 months and it wqasnt that bad but you have been on them longer so it may be more difficult.

[Decisions]

Bull, if I read it correctly, you haven't had a drink in 3 years?
So, for your body, drinking and the xanax,  will be a "new" experience.

I really would NOT suggest it.  At least not any real amount.
It is your life.  Don't be foolish.

You haven't had alcohol for long enough to wait a bit longer don't you think?

[bull172]

i hear ya with the smokes....but when i smoke it makes me wanna pop a vicodin...even though ive been smoking long befoe vicodin.....im quitting the 3 in stages....1st the vics AND smokes.....then im gonna take the beast....the hardest drug to kick....XANAX....**** i been on the since im 16 and im turning 28 next week

[bull172]

oh im far from off the xanax...i take 2mg per day (morn/nite).....today was exception...i took more today.....been popping .25 mgs throut the day to take the edge off of the vic wd....it has been working......ahhhhhh i have always drank with the xanax...always.....never with vics though....im on way to liquor stor now to pick up a nice bottle of merlot

[Decisions]

You are quitting all of your vices at one time..  But something tells me you are going to deal with the psychological more than the physical.  
To stay mentally tough on 3 addictions/dependencies, is a commendable undertaking.

I would say you are going to need some good coaching, and support.  Keep posting and let us know how you are doing..

You asked about how much worse it will get.  When I went down from that amount the first time, I tapered, and did not deal with much W/D.  I really depends on your body, along with the other dependencies you are planning on quitting.

Personally, if it were me, I would wait to quit smoking, so you can successfully quit the other 2.  Then work on the smoking..  

Anyone else agree with this???

NOTE  this is just MHO

[Decisions]

If you are going to have one glass of wine, "a small one", I can't see that it would hurt you if you are healthy otherwise.  I don't know your whole story.
And I am NOT a doctor!!!!   But if you are clean off of Xanax, then probably. IF you are TAKING ANY XANAX, THEN    NO>>>>>>  NO>>>>>   NO>>>>>>

Far worse to drink on benzos that hydros.
Although as you already know , it's not good with either.

Finally,  If you really "need" to have a "taste" of wine, for nothing but the taste...
Why not fill a shot glass full?  Sip it REAAAAALLLL slow????  Enjoy the flavor and NOT the buzz.

[bull172]

i have 300  10/325  malinkrots......they are not in my home......i have decided to quit cold trukey.....quit everything.....VICS...XANAX...MARLBOROS.....im taking this one step at a time.....the xanax ive been on so long i have to be professionallly weined by my dr....vics-COLD TURKEY!

please answr......would it hurt if i had a glass of red wine tonite...as of now it has been 24 hours32 mins since my last dose which was 20mgs

[Decisions]

Yes,,,  I "took" a lot more than that.
Your answer is not clear.  You have 300 in "stock".  
Several questions come to mind.
1. are you wanting to go Cold Turkey or taper?
2. if you taper can you control your taper? and if Cold Turkey, are you willing to remove the vics from your home?
3. Your choice may depend on your ability to get off of work, and your commitments.

In my limited experience.... If you have them in the house, eventually you WILL take them.  You need to decide.  If you are going to taper I think you would need about 40-50 to get through a reasonable taper.  SO, you have the "inventory".  

Also, the xanax is another horrible long-term drug, that you have to decide on.  I was taking Ativan, (at least an equal devil) for a couple years too.  I quit that C/T, but that is Highly NOT recommended.  

I feel lucky that I was never dependent on Ativan.

Let us know what you decide.  Best wishes,,,  Decisions....

[bull172]

thank you for your kind words.......i am dying for a glass of red wine....i havent had a drink in the 3 years i have been on vics....i knew the combo hurt the liver so i tayed clear....i also was only on 50-55 mgs vics a day...i know its a lot but from what ive been reading peop take 5 times as much.......

I AM DYING FOR A GLASS OF WINE!

[enemy48]

You'll tend to get drunk much easier as you body goes through turmoil.  I wouldn't recommend it.  You'll probably also have a hangover and want some pills for pain!

Kick the painkillers first, then work on the xans.

We'll be here when you're ready.

Best Wishes.

[bull172]

does anybody reccomend drinking some wine during this time?     RLS?!   oh man i have had that since i was 16.....well this is the 24th hour.....i have been popping .25 mg  xanax thruout the day to take edge off.....so far  im good......what i feel right now is that yurning fromm y stomach....IT WANTS ITS VICS!

[Missy31]

expect 5-7 days of the worst flu you have ever had usually 2-3 is the worst freeing aches RLS it ***** but you can beat it! just habg in there after the phycial WD you gotta learn to fight the craving and the emtional aspect of things