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hydromorphone (dilaudid) and oxymorphone (opana) addictive as oxycontin?
I've been reading posts in here and it seems alot of people are/were addicted to vicoden/lortab/norco and oxycontin, but I haven't read about anyone being addicted to dilaudid or oxymorphone. Are 2 drugs considered as addictive as oxycontin? I'm asking because my g/f's pain doctor might switch her from methadone to one of these. She doesnt abuse her methadone at all, she has no desire, but I have seen her take excessive amounts of oxycontin in the past. Thanks!
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Well, I guess the old thread's benn re-activated ... so, here goes: I'd never hear of the brand-name Opana before, but I can tell you the big difference between oxy's and dilaudid ...
Oxycodone -- the opioid in Percocet/dan and Oxycontin, is derived from a part of the opium moleculed called thebaine -- that's why it gives you that "lift," hardly anyone with no knowledge of these drugs would expect. Many oxy addicts take so much of the stuff, they need to take a few benzos to sleep. At high doses, you'll "nod," but not like on heroin or morphine. You could be sitting at the computer, say, for four hours with your eyes wide open but with your conscious brain shut off. Taking really high doses can induce this -- you come around standing in front of the toilet after swaying there for a few hours, completely gone ... but when you awaken, snorting a line will bring you back to that miserable addixtion.
I've tried Dilaudid a few times in the past -- apparently, it the fave for heroin addicts, who cook the tabs and shoot them, which is not my thing. It's action is similar to morphine -- no "pick-me-up," just the downer effect of morphine and/or heroin. Chronic users might call me out on that -- heroin lifts them up at first, but the depressant effect eventually leads them to to the "nod" stage.
The thebaine connection is what will keep Oxycontin (coupled with its ridiculous availability) at the top of the list of abuse, because snorting, not shooting, them is the best way for "high-seekers" to get what they want. Add this to the fact that chewing them produces a smooth, amphetamine-like buzz in the morning. Like all the so-called "good" drugs for recreational users, the victim is left chasing that initial high all day, and the mg total rises to obscene levels.
I'm surprised that Dilaudid isn't used to ease the w/ds from oxy: seems l8ike it could keep you more or less anaesthetized during the really bad days. Methadone and suboxone are major-league drugs, and the horror stories re w/d from these two could be stacked like firewood -- why not a four-day, medically assisted, in-house treatment with it?
I'm confident that someone in the know will address this situation, so thanks in advance.
Oxycodone -- the opioid in Percocet/dan and Oxycontin, is derived from a part of the opium moleculed called thebaine -- that's why it gives you that "lift," hardly anyone with no knowledge of these drugs would expect. Many oxy addicts take so much of the stuff, they need to take a few benzos to sleep. At high doses, you'll "nod," but not like on heroin or morphine. You could be sitting at the computer, say, for four hours with your eyes wide open but with your conscious brain shut off. Taking really high doses can induce this -- you come around standing in front of the toilet after swaying there for a few hours, completely gone ... but when you awaken, snorting a line will bring you back to that miserable addixtion.
I've tried Dilaudid a few times in the past -- apparently, it the fave for heroin addicts, who cook the tabs and shoot them, which is not my thing. It's action is similar to morphine -- no "pick-me-up," just the downer effect of morphine and/or heroin. Chronic users might call me out on that -- heroin lifts them up at first, but the depressant effect eventually leads them to to the "nod" stage.
The thebaine connection is what will keep Oxycontin (coupled with its ridiculous availability) at the top of the list of abuse, because snorting, not shooting, them is the best way for "high-seekers" to get what they want. Add this to the fact that chewing them produces a smooth, amphetamine-like buzz in the morning. Like all the so-called "good" drugs for recreational users, the victim is left chasing that initial high all day, and the mg total rises to obscene levels.
I'm surprised that Dilaudid isn't used to ease the w/ds from oxy: seems l8ike it could keep you more or less anaesthetized during the really bad days. Methadone and suboxone are major-league drugs, and the horror stories re w/d from these two could be stacked like firewood -- why not a four-day, medically assisted, in-house treatment with it?
I'm confident that someone in the know will address this situation, so thanks in advance.
I'm a heroin addict ten days clean. Before heroin I was addicted to methadone and in my experience it was really addictive. Just about as much as heroin with the same effects only in a purer form. Less dangerous cause you know what your getting. However, I always took more than prescribed dose. SAme with dalaudid. I'd say of the three oxys are the least but they're all pretty much the same in my experience. If she has legit pain and doesn't tend to abuse them that's the main thing, but the potential for addiction is there with all of them.
Hi Christy,
You are posting in an old thread and I don't want you to feel that you are being ignored if no one sees this.
You will want to start your own post and you can do that by going to the top of this page, hit the post a question button and say what you said her. Or, you may want to post in pain mngt forum as I think those members could be quite helpful to you.
Good luck.
You are posting in an old thread and I don't want you to feel that you are being ignored if no one sees this.
You will want to start your own post and you can do that by going to the top of this page, hit the post a question button and say what you said her. Or, you may want to post in pain mngt forum as I think those members could be quite helpful to you.
Good luck.
i am on 30 mg opana er and 5 mg opana. they are good, but they have been causing severe drowsiness so much that i have been nodding off at work, and have been asked to take a medical leave of absence. Now I dont know what to do they don't want me to come back till i'm drug free, but i have chronic back pain.. i cannot work w/out pain med..its too much pain to handle...right now im seeing about getting a spinal cord stimulator put in.. in hopes that i can either one come down on the pain meds or two come completely off of them.
I juts got put on opana 20mg ER AND 5MG IR is this good stuff or what I dont know
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