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powerlesness/ and the higher power thing
the 12 step programs , say we are powerlss over our reactions
to people ,places and things, we are not pwerless over people
places and things, for instance they say we are powerless over addiction, where is addiction ? it is inside of us, thus we are powerless over our reactions.
ir a peron called you an ******* very loudly at the acme
and there we a lot of people around, our instant reaction
is probley anger or we are hurt by it.
but we are not poweless to the point of not being able to do
any thing about it, this happened to me many years ago and i
was stunned and embarrassed, those feelings i had no controll over,
but i looked around to see how many people heard him say it,
and then i went over to him and punched him right in the mouth and knocked him out.so i was not powerless over him. just my reaction inside. and that is where addiction is inside me.
when my kids were small they would do things that would get me upset, i was powerless over those feeling , but i was not powerless over my children, the got punished and learned not to do those things that upset me.
if i drink coffee at night i am powerless over my reaction to it
because it will keep me up all night, but i am not powerless over coffee , i just stoped drinking it at night.
as far as the higher power thing. we should set aside our differences in this area . and just deal with addiction.
allow people there beleifs, what ever they are.
albert einstine said ther are 2 ways to lok at the universe
either everything is a miricle, or nothing is a miricle
to people ,places and things, we are not pwerless over people
places and things, for instance they say we are powerless over addiction, where is addiction ? it is inside of us, thus we are powerless over our reactions.
ir a peron called you an ******* very loudly at the acme
and there we a lot of people around, our instant reaction
is probley anger or we are hurt by it.
but we are not poweless to the point of not being able to do
any thing about it, this happened to me many years ago and i
was stunned and embarrassed, those feelings i had no controll over,
but i looked around to see how many people heard him say it,
and then i went over to him and punched him right in the mouth and knocked him out.so i was not powerless over him. just my reaction inside. and that is where addiction is inside me.
when my kids were small they would do things that would get me upset, i was powerless over those feeling , but i was not powerless over my children, the got punished and learned not to do those things that upset me.
if i drink coffee at night i am powerless over my reaction to it
because it will keep me up all night, but i am not powerless over coffee , i just stoped drinking it at night.
as far as the higher power thing. we should set aside our differences in this area . and just deal with addiction.
allow people there beleifs, what ever they are.
albert einstine said ther are 2 ways to lok at the universe
either everything is a miricle, or nothing is a miricle
hey lots of attention, sounds like your
near the end of thr road,
1st get clean
start by thinkg about it.
then taper, if you can.
you know the drill.
you can't make any decesion untill you let go of the pills
we can really screw up a life, us counter culture ,rebels
waht happened to the love.
we need to get better so we can love, because that is the answer
peace
near the end of thr road,
1st get clean
start by thinkg about it.
then taper, if you can.
you know the drill.
you can't make any decesion untill you let go of the pills
we can really screw up a life, us counter culture ,rebels
waht happened to the love.
we need to get better so we can love, because that is the answer
peace
Hey if anyone out here believes in a higher power and it is God and his son Jesus Christ today is the day to put Chezz at the top of your prayer requests, Dear God thank you for your son and I know that you are awesome and all knowing please bless our friend Chezz and watch over his surgery and let the recovery be swift and the pain minimal, he is trying Lord protect him. If you don't pray yourself read this and use it Chezz needs prayer now and our positive posts to keep going
I want to quit everything, I quit smoking last year and I lasted six weeks and quit drinking and quit using and I fell into this huge suicidal depression and started back to smoking then drinking then using and now i do all three. Be careful baby steps are so important. How long have you been clean? I love my marlboros too. I getting alot of wrinkles now though, I'm thinking about botox. what a dork huh? I should probably be worried about my liver not looking good in a casket!
Just hang around here and you'll probably realize that if we can get clean,you can too.You will have to truly want it though.Everyone knows when they are ready,and if your not ready yet,thats ok.I kinda want to quit smoking,but Im not quite ready for that yet.I love to smoke more than I loved hydros and just dont want to stop yet.Were all here for ya,using or not.Take care.
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pixi
You sound nice and you sound clean. I'm sorry if I sound mean, I am fighting such a battle and I keep making excuses to myself and putting it off another day another week, I'm sure you know the drill. I just want a magic pill or a magic personality change. Your right about setting boundaries and the guilt, its awful, my life is so painful and such a secret and I play my part oh so well. My marriage of 20 years is failing right in front of me and I can't stop using or talk to my husband about anything and if he knew he would kick me out anyway he hates me clean and he hates me using he is so stupid he doesn't know the difference. It's so complicated, I can't tell sometimes if its me that makes it that way. Are you a hippy, I used to be. Thank you for the post, I need alot of attention.
religion is a good thing, but like you said get clean 1st.
it was suggested to me when i 1st got clean to put my religion on the back burner, and i try not to bring it up when dealing with addicts because i don't want to seperate my self from them.
i do mention prayer , because i have seen it work. and if something works im all for it.
a lot of new people getting clean jump right back into there
religion, but that is like getting into a boxing ring with no training ,you wind up getting beat up.
we beat ourselves up because we don't live up to our own
unrealistic expectations.
so many people of religion ,are performance orienated,
there beleif is based on thier performance, and when they do good they pat themselves on the back. and when they do bad they beat them selves up, and suffer the guilt trip that goes with it.
guilt is the gasoline that fuels addiction, and a lot of our guolt come's from us stepping outside our own boundry lines.
we need to learn what those boundry lines are.
working the 12 steps is learning to live a life based on the awaking of the spirit.
there is evil in the world, and most addicts have seen it up close, i have read where ever there is an out pouring of the spirit the is a double effort put forth by the diabolic.
this fourm is for addicts and people in cronic pain,
and we have to keep it on that , we have to keep it simple.
by learning about getting a day free from abusing drugs and
learning to avoid guilt trips,and how to deal with our pian
in a resposable way.
we need to take the focous off our selves and start to be aware of others and how we can be of support, by sharing positve experences ,with each other.
most of us have grown up with some kind of religion, but that
never stopped us from useing and abuseing ourselves,
i have a lot of jewish, and moslem , and hindu freinds in recovery and they don't beleive what i beleive what we beleive.
so i set that aside, and consntrate on our simalarities
regarding pain, and addiction , and recovery and prayer and how to help each other and all the things we have in common.
that what the awaking of the spirit is , setting aside our difference, and coming together as equal's
it was suggested to me when i 1st got clean to put my religion on the back burner, and i try not to bring it up when dealing with addicts because i don't want to seperate my self from them.
i do mention prayer , because i have seen it work. and if something works im all for it.
a lot of new people getting clean jump right back into there
religion, but that is like getting into a boxing ring with no training ,you wind up getting beat up.
we beat ourselves up because we don't live up to our own
unrealistic expectations.
so many people of religion ,are performance orienated,
there beleif is based on thier performance, and when they do good they pat themselves on the back. and when they do bad they beat them selves up, and suffer the guilt trip that goes with it.
guilt is the gasoline that fuels addiction, and a lot of our guolt come's from us stepping outside our own boundry lines.
we need to learn what those boundry lines are.
working the 12 steps is learning to live a life based on the awaking of the spirit.
there is evil in the world, and most addicts have seen it up close, i have read where ever there is an out pouring of the spirit the is a double effort put forth by the diabolic.
this fourm is for addicts and people in cronic pain,
and we have to keep it on that , we have to keep it simple.
by learning about getting a day free from abusing drugs and
learning to avoid guilt trips,and how to deal with our pian
in a resposable way.
we need to take the focous off our selves and start to be aware of others and how we can be of support, by sharing positve experences ,with each other.
most of us have grown up with some kind of religion, but that
never stopped us from useing and abuseing ourselves,
i have a lot of jewish, and moslem , and hindu freinds in recovery and they don't beleive what i beleive what we beleive.
so i set that aside, and consntrate on our simalarities
regarding pain, and addiction , and recovery and prayer and how to help each other and all the things we have in common.
that what the awaking of the spirit is , setting aside our difference, and coming together as equal's
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