powerlesness/ and the higher power thing

[hippy]

the 12 step programs , say we are powerlss over our reactions
to people ,places and things, we are not pwerless over people
places and things, for instance they say we are powerless over addiction, where is addiction ? it is inside of us, thus we are powerless over our reactions.
ir a peron called you an *******  very loudly at the acme
and there we a lot of people around, our  instant reaction
is probley anger or we are hurt by it.
but we are not poweless to the point of not being able to do
any thing about it, this happened to me many years ago and i
was  stunned and embarrassed, those feelings i had no controll over,
but i looked around to see how many people heard him say it,
and then i went over to him and punched him right in the mouth and knocked him out.so i was not powerless over him. just my reaction inside. and that is where addiction is inside me.
when my kids were small they would do things that would get me upset, i was powerless over those feeling , but i was not powerless over my children, the got punished and learned not to do those things that upset me.

if i drink coffee at night  i am powerless over my reaction to it
because it will keep me up all night, but i am not powerless over  coffee , i just stoped drinking it at night.

as far as the higher power thing. we should set aside our differences in this area . and just deal with addiction.
allow people there beleifs, what ever they are.

albert einstine said ther are 2 ways to lok at the universe
either everything is a miricle, or nothing is a miricle

[DIRTBAG]

Know what I think, I think God is it, I know so many people who have made it on Jesus Christ, I'm not kidding, Knowing Jesus is just like a drug but better, but you've got to really get down on your knees and pray it will work but I'm only able to pray so much and then my higher power turns into dope again but people do really get healed with Christ, when I'm done using that is where I'm going.

[bmac]

Tell him about your pain and what has worked in the past,med wise.Don't go into detail about addiction.A pain doc doesn't have to check your medical records.By the time most people are referred to them it is to control narcotic used anyway.Just tell him about your pain and what you would like to do about it.
                              bmac

[hippy]

na has a chapter in there basic text called recovery and relapse
when i got clean it was the only thing i could relate to /
you might want to read it, i read it every day for months]
when i got clean.

check it out

peace!!!!!!!!!

[mrstracy777]

Thanks for the info. I have no insurance so I haven't been using any. I basically just went to the ER when I had pain or a problem. That's what confused me so much when the Dr. came back with even my gynecologists name. I feel that is pretty intrusive. I wasn't aware that going to different ER's was a crime til the emergency room doc told me I was goin to jail. You know what they say though.

It'll take you further than you wanna go
Keep you longer than you wanna stay
And cost you more than you could ever pay!!!

[CinCee]

Good morning.

[Sean5110]

Bill and all, thank you for your greeting! I'm glad to be putting more distance between me and those pills. I'm incredibly grateful to be given another opportunity to succeed and that I did not succeed in completely destroying my family, as could have been so possible over ther previous months of drug abuse and prescription forgery. I can't believe it; I feel like Jimmy Stewart at the end of It's A Wonderful Life! Accepting of course, my days are just filled with vacillating emotions all scrambled and intense.

I have this enlivened appreciation and intense longing for my wife and kids. It's like I can't tell them enough that I love them and my heart hurts to give each one a huge dose of attention and affection. And that's hard in my case because they're a pretty big crew already and we're adding another to the mix. But man, I'll die trying.

Today is my last buprenorphine dosage, so I guess I'll see tommorow what the residual of all of this is. I have a feeling that lethary will only increase, but that is better than the alternative by a long shot.

Thanks all!
Sean