powerlesness/ and the higher power thing

[hippy]

the 12 step programs , say we are powerlss over our reactions
to people ,places and things, we are not pwerless over people
places and things, for instance they say we are powerless over addiction, where is addiction ? it is inside of us, thus we are powerless over our reactions.
ir a peron called you an *******  very loudly at the acme
and there we a lot of people around, our  instant reaction
is probley anger or we are hurt by it.
but we are not poweless to the point of not being able to do
any thing about it, this happened to me many years ago and i
was  stunned and embarrassed, those feelings i had no controll over,
but i looked around to see how many people heard him say it,
and then i went over to him and punched him right in the mouth and knocked him out.so i was not powerless over him. just my reaction inside. and that is where addiction is inside me.
when my kids were small they would do things that would get me upset, i was powerless over those feeling , but i was not powerless over my children, the got punished and learned not to do those things that upset me.

if i drink coffee at night  i am powerless over my reaction to it
because it will keep me up all night, but i am not powerless over  coffee , i just stoped drinking it at night.

as far as the higher power thing. we should set aside our differences in this area . and just deal with addiction.
allow people there beleifs, what ever they are.

albert einstine said ther are 2 ways to lok at the universe
either everything is a miricle, or nothing is a miricle

[bmac]

Yes they know everything.These days the medical and Rx records are kept so they all have a data base and can pull up your SS
NUMBER and find out anything they want to about the doctors you see and the RX's where you fill the scripts.When you go into an
office and sign that form giving them the right to all your records and you have to sign it,They can get into that data base and everything is there.That's how they catch so many people doc shopping and going to different Rx's.If you don't use your insurance and use a certain Rx sometimes you can get away with it.But basically they have your records under your SS number on a nation wide data base.Good Luck
                           bmac

[deva]

have you ever heard of the unified field?its the science behind the claim that we all come from one conected space or feils.not to get to sciency with you because as much science supports it,also spiritualality supports it too.i personally think that the quote you use all miracle or none has to do with the reality that all is inner connected depending on how you view life.you may think ,all is is amazing,no matter what you may feel,that in fact there is a larger design at work.for instance:i never used drugs before,now im addicted...because of my pain...nonetheless,im an addict.i would have before looked upon those using meds to get high as those without intelligence.or maybe i might have thought they less than me.but as the design would have it,i became an adict to experience these emotions,this struggle,this turmoil...to lend my hand to those in need that i have suddenly realized are everywhere in society.my becoming an addict has made me a better person,and ive opened my mind and heart to those outside of the "righteous world".ive a best friend who has fibromyalgia,and it struck her after her c-section.if id never been here,where i am,addicted to pain meds,because my back is agony,then id not be able to see her struggle with her mentality or her depression that shes addicted.it just so happens,she told me that shes always seen me as her big sister,and she couldnt make it through another day without someone understanding her pain and guilt and various emotions associated with being in chronic pain.THIS IS THE MIRACLE THEORY,EVERY THING HAS A GREATER DESIGN THAN VISABLE TO THE EYE AT FIRST GLANCE,THE UNIFIED FIELD WHERE WE ALL MELD INTO ONE ANOTHER AND ALL ARE ONE ...UNIFIED.the "not miracle" outlook,has to do with the opposite view,which is still unified.without darkness,how can you compare the strength of the light?you cant see light or dark without one or the other.yin-yan,black-white,miracle-science.i personally have studied this theory and havce come to conclude that everything has an origin..in and of itself.the knower,the known,and the process of knowing.in this we all have the ability to be someplace and noplace at the same time.we are evolving together at the risk of no-one and everyone,at once.all love ..deva

[GOD]

Hi guys!
I had 2 questions aimed at the administration at this forum--

1.) Could you please POST the address and PAY TO THE ORDER OF for this website to make a VOLENTARY monetary contribution? I know that it takes time and effort to run a site like this, and this site has helped me more than any shrink has! (Psychologists cost a LOT more by the way...)

2.) This current string is/was about peoples belief or disbelief in a "Higher Power", Physics (especially the Unification theory), and 12 step programs in general... I posted an answer or statement to Groovy concerning her First comment on this string. My post has seemingly disappeared. I would like to know "Why" it was removed. It did not contain profanity, personal info, or insulting language. Is there another rule that I am not aware of that has caused the removal? If so, could you post a refresher concerning what is allowed on this forum and what is inappropriate?

Thanks for your reply!
Jess P.

[puma]

Jessearpy,

I have noticed many of my posts missing too especially from the initial boards thread headers.

Then while re-reading the entire thread, my comment will be there along with others not listed either. Than later my commment is back on the thread list, only for the next day, it to be gone again. I also do not use profanity. I think it is a computer glitch of some sort due to memory capacity and/or compression of files at the server, especially the longer posts so as to fit more data in. Just my opinion.

Chatahan

[bmac]

What happened to all the post on this thread.I swear it wasn't me this time.They are gone.I read Jesse' post about them and looked and yes they are gone.I noticed several others missing from other threads,what's going on?Anyone know?
                                 bmac

[athena]

Good morning.Are you having a dreary rainy day too?I hope not,it doesn't help my pathetic attitude at all....lol You are a day ahead of me gb so I kinda look up to you..OOOOH the pressure of that lol Cin is one day behind me so I have to be a good influence lol I hope the empty feelings are getting a little better.I am having them also.It will get better though.You have that prescious little boy to think of and the little goldens.Oh yeah,and your wife lol Have a great day.

pix