see what i mean?

[groovygirl]

kell737 asks "You guys are probably going to think I'm stupid but what does snorting Oxy's do to you? How does it make you feel? ....Is it the same as swolling them? Just curious, I always too them by mouth."

groovygirl's answer to kell737 "yeah man, it's so cool to snort them...you get SO high - you see, they are time-released so when you crush them, the time release action is ruined and you get the full effect of the drug all at once. that is why so many teenagers overdose and DIE from doing it...yeah, that's how it makes you feel - SO cool....any questions?"

since i got so much **** when i brought this up before, is this more of the type of response you'd like from members of this forum?

[GOD]

Groovy, You are SOOOO right.

Another thing kiddos:

Go ahead and crush up an OXY Contin 80MG pill, Mix it with saline solution, and INJECT it over a 5 minute period. You will feel SOOOO high for about 20 minutes until your respiration stops, and you DIE.

Any OTHER questions?

Oh, and I forgot (for you people who don't do Opiates).... You can get really high inhaling Oven cleaner. Simply spray a good amount in a plastic bag until it's full of fumes! Then take a big hit. Inhale until your lungs are full and hold it in for at least 30 seconds. MAN, WHAT A RUSH. Just remember to call the coroner's office 30 minutes prior so that they can prepare the proper size body bag for their pick-up at your place.


Yeah, Groovy. You have a VERY valid point.

Jess

[GOD]

Where are YOU tonight (Saturday 9:50pm CST?)

Bored?

I enjoyed our chat!

Give me a call... No matter what Time...

Laters,
Jess

[GOD]

Hey, Man...

I see that you are enjoying an exciting Saturday night in front of the old radiation screen (PC) just like me!

At least we're not out on the street trying to score some OXY to snort... HAhaa


Goodnight,
Jess

[suzieneedshelp]

Dear Jess...I cant find your number hon.  I'm gonna go check e-mail...But i thought i wrote it down.  Ty for keeping in touch..it means a lot...even thought im using...
Suzie

[GOD]

1:10a.m. Sunday

O.K., so this post isn't drug-related, so bite me. That said, here goes:

Hiya, Hon!

I really enjoyed our chat on the phone tonight. Nice to talk to a gal with some gray-matter between the ears (as well as being as all around sweetie) for once. Go FSU too!

Anyway- too bad I'm not in FL anymore; I'd love a face-to-face.... but cest la vie!

I know you're gonna' be allright, so don't you fret. I'll give you a ring when I get back from picking up the Infinity today, and we can try out that MSN messenger.

As always: "keep that angel on your shoulder."

Jess

[GOD]

Oh yeah...

To those gentle readers who are going to have a problem with me posting personal non-addiction related stuff *Here*, don't worry... that [the previous post] was a one-time thing. I'll be back to the opiates/benzo's/booze-related posts the very next time you see my nicotine-stained postings here. I'm still the *recovering* hop-head and Ultram junkie that you've all been accustomed to!

Huh?! What...?

Jess

[suzieneedshelp]

Well as you were typing this... I was typing to you in  e-mail...Great minds think alike huh>?  Anyway...Its really cool to meet such a real person here on this site..so even though this message is not drug related..well it is in that there is hope for all of you to meet a real friend here.   We  all need friends who understand us..who we are not hiding our addiction from.  Who we can be real with .  Jess was the first to respond to my cry and I know we will be friends for a very long time...We have everything to gain from our growing kinship and nothing to lose.  So people keep reaching out...here.  Reaching out can save your life.  And/ or it can facilitate new friendships to seed and flurish.  I feel my heart is growing bigger by the minute thanks to my new sweet Jess...
Suzie

[GOD]

Whoa...

Just checking my e-mail b4 bed, and got YOURS!

THanks, and the feeling is mutual, sweetie!

Gotta go the bed now, though.....

Jess

P.S. I may be seeing my old Alma Matter sooner than I thought ;.)

P.P.S. Oh yeah, Kids... Drugs are bad. Say "NO!"

P.P.P.S. I can hardly wait for the flaming this string is going to give me. I guess there's a little Sado-Masochist in all of us.....

Gimme all you got, flamers! I can take it like a true addict~~~~!

[Goldenbear]

How do we start a new thread for the day?
Goldenbear

[suzieneedshelp]

I'm having kinda bad day..except one bright shining glaring spot...YOU on my mind...I've been using for no reason...just to do something...not that i dont have plenty of more productive things that I need to do...Why are we self destructive?  If I knew that I could solve my problem.
Jess...
I miss you...
Suzie

[GOD]

Right here...

Just got back from work @ 12:30pm CST~

[GOD]

WHere are you!?

[GOD]

Are you an AOL subscriber.... Sure seems like it with your booming I.Q.-


Why don't you take your hatred to an AOL chat room?

Ever been there? They'd be perfect for you. Bunch of 12 year-olds calling each other faggots and threatening to kill each other. You'd like it there.

I came here to get information on tapering, and found the "Thomas recipe" in the archives, so for that I thank you guys who run this board!

Don;t think I'll stick around, though.

Frank

[bmac]

ALWAYS!!Hang tuff and as for this past weekend I drank alcohol for the first time in a year and a half.Rum and coke.Woke up Sunday and felt like sh**.I deserved that hangover.
                           bmac

[percsnomas]

.....just curious Bill, did the booze "trigger" any desire for the narcs??

[bmac]

No thank God.We had company over this weekend and they are all
drinkers and I just wanted to see just how this addiction was
for me.I mean is it really mental or could I be a 'normal'
human being.I drank a good bit but never reached that point
I was drunk.I was surprized since I hadn't had any alcohol
in over a year.I didn't think about dope the whole time.I did wake up with a pounding headache.Next time I will stick to my
other addiction,Mtn.Dew,I drink far too many of them.
I use to love diet coke and rum.It was my drink of choice
that and Heinikne.I will pass from now on,it doesn't compair to the high from pot or opiates.One thing for methadone, it caused
me to stop drinking,and that is a good thing.
               hope this answered the question.
                     Day 41, Bill

[percsnomas]

Thanks, I was just curious.
When I got off the percs(we have exactly the same clean time +-),
a "veteran" poster suggested avoiding booze(i'm not sure for how long) which made sense to me since the two seemed to go hand in hand.  Consequently, I've kept it to maybe a glass of wine with dinner, just till more time passes and I'm mentally stronger.

[peaz]

I was wondering about the booze thing, too.  I was worried that I would get absolutely ****-faced in trying to get the opiate high.(that of course would never come or be the same).  I haven't been clean long enough to consider drinking moderately or safely. I think it would lead me down that evil drug-seeking path, or at the very least, make me abandon any resolve and determination that has kept me clean for the past nine months.  It's scary to think of NEVER being high AGAIN....YIKES!!! (Is this where the "one day at a time" phrase comes in???


Peaz

[percsnomas]

Boy can I relate.....I used to only drink on weekends(****-faced on Fri. and/or Sat; then nothing during the week).
Then the first back surgery and percocet; reherniated the same disc, more/continued percocet; throw in booze and the cycle became more progressive.
Then Jan. 16/02 my mom passed away very unexpectly(blood clot from breaking her leg skating), Mar. 7/02 very good buddy murdered by my building downtown(actually drove by him, while the police were investigating), Mar.19 my last grandparent passed away(also quite unexpected), Jun.20 a very good family friend killed in a head-on collision, and finally Jul.7 my grief counseller who grew to be a close friend died in his sleep.
Consumption of percs, because I was so tolerant, went way up after/during all this plus the booze.
Now that I've been off the pills for 40 some-odd days, I wonder will I be able to drink(get ripped) and Not trigger the pill craving.

[bmac]

Drinking for me was never a problem even though at times I did drink too much.I was always a prescription addict and in the past 12 years I have never had to chase narcotics.I knew too many doctors to have to find drugs on the street.Not to say I haven't ever taken drugs bought on the street,I just never really had to supplement my use with them.
As for the drinking,I never thought of drinking alcohol as getting high.I always got drunk not high.For me there is a big difference.I know to alot of people alcohol is a big problem.
I could always take it or leave it.Playing music in bars you catch yourself drinking way too much but I never thought of it as getting high.This goes to show just how much of all this is mental.I don't consider smoking pot an addiction either.I have
been know to smoke it and never woke up craving it either.
Now some docs will tell you that is bullshit,but hey once again it's all mental anyway,for me atleast.I will say I don't think I'll be drinking anymore.It wasn't what I expected it to be after over a year since I have drank anything.
My addiction has been to strong narcotics and That will be the past for me.As far as pot and alcohol it hasn't ever been a problem except for the fact pot is illegal.
                            bmac

[bmac]

Don't let the way I think about this subject change your minds.If drinking was a problem before then it will be a problem now.
It just never tripped my trigger so to speak.As I said in the past I have had 3 backsurgeries and then ant/post fusion on the same area in low back.Then went thru 3 knee surgeries and one
right leg osteotomy(12" pin above that knee to stablize the knee)
I did use alcohol with the narcotics but didn't ever crave alcohol.As I said if it was a problem before don't do it now.
I didn't mean to make it sound like it's ok,go ahead and get drunk.Please.But I know you two are smarter than that.
                    peace,
                     bmac

[peaz]

I have to get ready for work; will talk more about the booze/social problem later.  It's  something that's really impeding my mental recovery.
       Anyway, before I go--has anyone heard from Chezz today?  I'm worried, 'cause the last thing I think we heard was yesterday from his wife, saying what a hard time he was having.  Anyone have his email address so we can check up on him?  He has been so supportive of all of us--I think he deserves the same from us.     Peaz

[peaz]

Here's the deal: when I was coerced into treatment (either that or jail--guess which one I chose?) I was told that since I was addicted to vicodin, and I drank alcohol before and during my addiction, that I was an alcoholic.  Period. "A drug is a drug is a drug" is their mantra, and if I disagreed w/ them, I was in denial which just indicated how much I DID need help!!  No matter that it never caused me problems...I'd get drunk sometimes but like bmac said, I have never CRAVED a drink.  In fact, I had quit drinking a month and my 14 yr. old didn't even know I'd quit drinking--THAT'S how big of a problem it was....So now that I'm off of everything, I'm wondering how does one fit in to any social circles/events when there are cocktails EVERYWHERE??? I've been hibernating all these months, but it's getting old, and sooner or later my husband is going to want to interact w/ some of our old friends again.  Should I just make an attempt to be around drinkers and see how it goes?  It would be much easier if I thought I was a alcoholic and really shouldn't drink.  As it is, I only get pissed off  because I don't think I'm any different than the others in the room...

[peaz]

Even my husband, kids, family and friends agree w/ me, but realize that there's no way I can fight the drug counselors--their word is gospel.  So I'm playing their game for the 36 months that I'm required to, and perhaps I shall get  to run my own life when that's over.  Again, my question is--how can I fit into a world of drinkers?  Peaz