im goin to use the sub
PLEASEEE lets not have a huge debate about sub like every other time sub is mentioned, im not going to get hooked, i have 2 sub pills
i sucked it up the 1st time and went through it without
after seeing my friend do it with sub i see no reason i should go through that when i can do jus like he did and be pefectly fine
i went 8 days then started using again, i've used long enough to go through wdraws and i dont have goin thru that bs again in me
i wasnt asking whether to use sub or not, im going to
cathy has awnsered my question - lets leave it at that
You really have to take into consideration the fact of the significant brain changes that have occurred because of your opiate use.Opiates do not diminish pain whatsoever- they only trick your brain into not thinking you are in pain- the brain receptors get overloaded with pleasure senses and the drug has now overridden your natural capacity to deal with your pain.
I don't know if the muscle relaxers will do much to help.Yes, there are physical symptoms with withdrawal, and you can ease the suffering- but I tried many different methods(including muscle relaxers) to kick successfully, and none of them worked.The only success I have had is with professional treatment.
I looked up the cyclobenz ,and it seems like it has a very low addictive qualities too so that is good. It is the same as flexeril I believe in case you want to look it up. So it sounds like you have a good plan with the sub and at least you know the cyclobenz is available in case you still experience sysmptoms after the sub. With the cyclobenz, If you do use it can you post and let us know if it helps? I also have some and was thinking to use it for RLS.
i really agree 2 pills will be fine but make sure you are in the severe w/d range before you take it ir it will be way worse than regular w/ds, from what i hear.
Go for it Sunshine ---- You should do fine -- but as far as the "Sub wars" - they really weren't that bad -- just people expressing their opinions. Seems like you got the message and already know about the addictive power of Sub --- so, with only 2 tablets you should do fine -- sounds like a pretty good plan. Hope you do get to the bottom of the problem though, - figure out why you use so you don't have to go through this again. I wish you well -- please continue to post and let us all know how it goes for you. It's never a bad thing to share and let others who check out this site know your experience. All the best.
You have been using for the past two weeks after being clean for how long? How long did you use before that? My non expet addict self says to suck it up and withdraw now. Using more drugs to get off drugs has never been the successful route for me.
God Bless
you can take the sub that. however, it would be much better if you got the sub under drs care. as long as you are on the sub it should not be bad, but when you run out os those the cyclob may help a little bit. good luck.