treatment of drug addiction

[santoo]

Respected sir/madam,
                    my brother vipin kumar got addiction to fortwin injection, he is addicted for about 6yrs his age is 27yrs. He wants to get rid of but failing. He want to be treated. In what way it can be possible. We belongs to India.  If you want some more information let me know I will mail you again.Please help him sir.If you yourself can't give treatment please let me know the other sources in India itself.
                                     hopefully yours
                                      sachin kumar

[hippy]

i am  sure there are N.A. and AA meetings in india , the  people who attend those meetings ,would have the most information about getting your brother some help, and where to get it.

[jafco]

I found this link for drug rehabilitation centers in India on the internet. I have no idea what city you live in, and I know India is a very large country. If these centers are not close enough I'm sure they can help you find one that is. There is help out there. Good Luck to your brother. He is lucky to have you looking out for him.

http://www.sanskritiindia.com/dairrc/home.html

Jafco

[angst]

What is fortwin?  Maybe the name is indigenous to the locale.

[jafco]

Pentazocine, known here as Talwin.

Jafco

[angst]

Thanks Jafco, I had not heard it called that before now.  Talwin can be just as difficult to withdraw from if he has a 6 year addiction.  The sites you gave him hopefully will help.  You are a godsend.

Santoo,  if you can, stand by your brother.  He will need you.  Find a clinic and see if they can give him something to detox on other than nothing at all.  He will have diarrhea and pain like never before, but he can make it.  The best thing for me when I went through withdrawls was the support of my family.  Good blood building food and their company sure helped once I could eat.  Good Luck

[Nod]

I've posted here over the last 2 years or so and stop by for suppport every now and then.  Just wanted to say I am officially 5 days clean and feel great.  I tappered myself off a 150-200 hydro habit over the last 6 weeks.  Hard part starts now. As I look back on the addiction and the control it had over me, I'm just amazed, embarrassed, ashamed and thankful to be thinking clear again.  Keep the faith out there, you can do it if you want. I'll continue to read here for support to stay clean.  
Take care all,
NOD

[hippy]

good to hear you have 5 days ,im doing good, 24 days clean with the recipe,spring is here and the sunny day tomorrow will be one of the things i enjoy these days.
i was awake every hour last night. so i will probley sleep better tonight. i have heard people suggest xanax or valume ,but im staying totoly clean. plus they just would zap all my energy.I have never taken vitamine's so dilegently in my whole life, they are really helping.. im hitting a na meeting on tuesday.I heard you talk about the hard part, at 24 days . the most important thing for me is to stay busy, to eat good. and always have a good book. It's good to read all the post, tho it does seem strange when people from other countrys post., i mean it's good and all. I have to remember that this site is run by harvard. if i was looking for answers , harvard sounds good.
I found this site by accedent. it has been a godsend.

[angst]

Hey, I hope you are enjoying these warmer months.  I also keep at least one good book at hand.  I am learning to take it easy, not to stress myself out over philosophy.  I take what I can use and leave the rest.  
It is great to hear from folks all over the world.  I'd love to visit the UK.  This forum gave me a little piece of that.  Variety makes my life more interesting. It is good to hear you posting.  I enjoy listening to you.  And I'm glad you are doing so well.  Keep on keeping on, ava.

[jafco]

Angst - Thanks for the kind words. Far from being a godsend, I just happen to be a very adept <sp> internet researcher. I was able to come up with that information within minutes. If you know the right searching techniques you can come up with needed answers on the spot. Isn't it amazing that as little 10 yrs ago, something like this forum would not even be available to people like ourselves. That's the godsend.

Nod - I hope that you meant 150-200 mgs. and not pills. I congratulate you on your success. I have just completed a slow taper myself, from roughly 120 mg of hydro a day and have reached "ground zero" today! It has been uncomfortable but manageable. As you've said, now comes the hard part. I suspect that over the next several days I will experience some full blown withdrawal symptoms. I'm taking "the recipe" and hoping for the best. I'm not trying to anticipate, but I'm prepared for whatever comes my way. Hopefully, since I've tapered slowly, and haven't gone cold turkey, things won't be too overwelming. It's comforting to know that all these good people are here, if and when we need them. In addition, it also helps to reach out to others, as it takes your mind off your own problems at the same time. Everyone is a winner in this situation!

God Bless

Jafco

[GOD]

Hey, SKIP!

Why don't you post what you sent me this morning? I think it is a powerful work, and most of these people here would get it.......

Just a thought.

Jess

[skipper]

jess:
do you really think so? i sent it to one other person...i think
i'll wait and see what she has to say. ya know my whole life i've
not only been addicted to drugs, but also words. i see the pro-
cess of writing as a method of getting all the **** that bounces
around inside my head. very little of what i have ever written
has ever been "finished." my main desire is to extract from head,
and put on paper in the purest, most symplified manner i can.
when i have accomplished this, i usually lose intrest in what ev-
er happens to it after that. it would be intresting to hear what
other addicts think of it, but expecting that kind of honesty,
well it might be just too mush! intrestingly enough it did start
out as a post. my wife talked me out of it because of it's dark
and somewhat disturbing content. hell a lot of stuff i post has
later to be found (usually in an altered form) in stuff i write!
what can i say? i truly am addicted to words, and they can drive me just as crazy as drugs can.

keep an angel on your shoulder
kip

[angst]

Hey skipper,
I would like to read what you sent this morning.  I do not want to impose, but many of us addicts are idealist.  We read a lot and are transformed by philosophy.  I hope you do not take me for being too forward.  My email is ***@****. I check it pretty often.  I  hope you will share with us, but do what is best for you.
Keep on keeping on, ava

[skipper]

ok, i hope they don't delete this thread! (it may not be that
good!)

coming along with Jones

five days of rain and all the other
stuff that always comes along with Jones.
damp basements and Bup - but i
don't know where it is or ever even was...

all i know is if you go far enough
along, and it's usually real soon enough too.
it will hit me in the guts, after watching
me from the basement's shaddows...

yeah it's been watching me, learning
carefully of my every fear and weakness - and
then it's five days of rain, and all that other
stuff that comes along with Jones.


so people, there it is. it's more than kind of where i'm at! i
hope someone get's something out of it, and maybe now i'm rid of
it!

keep an angel on your shoulder
kip

[angst]

Thankyou, you just wrote volumes in that post.

[jennyfla]

Thanks for sharing your inner thoughts, you're one deep thinking guy!
It's watching you, we all know how that feels, but you stand up and look it straight in the eye and tell it how you are so much better than 'it'.
My husband calls it the 'monster'.
He says the 'monster's' coming!  That's the feeling of withdrawal breathing down you neck as your hairs start to stand up.
I'm feeling 'the monster' right now, it's knocking on my door and i'm going to stare it in the eyes and spit in it's face!
My 2-year old just starting talking about monsters, she thinks they are under her bed.  I pray to god that she never learns what a real monster really is!!
My children are genetically predisposed, and i will do everything in my power to make sure they never know this hell!
I hope to god the medical world takes addiction a little more serious and comes up with better ways of helping all us poor slobs out here!
One word of advice, get your butt outta that basement already!!!  Is the renovation almost done, that basement is no good for you Kip!!!
Keep an angel on your shoulder!!!  ~i~
Lv Jenny

[skipper]

hey know what?

when i finally learned what addiction was all about, i (almost)
felt let down. just like the rest of the "straight" world, i
thought i had it figured out where it was at and what it was a-
bout. well now i'm not so sure. when i first started using i had
a preconception of w/d. the first real habit i ever had really supprised me! our narcophobic society has dissemenated so much
mis-information about drugs that i for one went into all of this
not knowing up from down! well after 35+ years i've learned a
little bit anyhow. still, opiates are often stange little voices
that whisper *far and wee,* and to this very day i'm not always
so sure where i'm at with them. but Jones, he's always got kip's
number! (and he always whispers to me, all far and wee.*

*sorry about that EE Cummings, i'm a thief!

keep an angel on your shoulder
kip

[Hinkster]

Hey kip,
  Heres alittle something I wrote for you.
          
                  Ode to the Skipper
                 (captain of our ship)
              We've got a man around here,
                   We call him the Kip.
Theres no fooling around shoots straight from the hip.
       His answers sometime will get you to glow, and
          and others by God you don't want to know.
        His mind is available all through the day, you
    can pick it or pull it but HE'S got the final say.
       He hurts like us all but would never let on,
         He's strong as an ox yet gentle as a fawn.
    We all love this man and hate to see him in pain,
    we need him around here, what with so much to gain?
         Reading these forums your on such a trip,
               We've got a man around here,
                    We call him the Kip.

[oc head is me]

i was doing oxycontin for 2 months straight, and about 100 milograms a day. i have been clean of it for 11 days. but i just took 5mg of hydromorphone. will i go through withdrawl tomarrow from taking it? i have heard hydromorphone is stronger that oxycontin. will i go through withdrawl again?

[oh please already]

BRAVO

[oh please already]

skipper you took my breath away and thats a feat you know how i tend to ramble on and on-dont wast the talent you have its soul-raching              i just got back from store,it seems i left out the 5htp from my rcipe so i thouht to get it,to see if it works and the pharmist says it has been recalled,that people died overdosing on it and that it was a deadly mix with suderfed.so is that true? or does anyone know where to get it(i dont think this counts as drug sharing as its a vitiam but if it is sorry-disregard my post please-

[angst]

hydromorphone, dilaudid, is stronger than oxycontin.  if you only used once, you will not have withdrawals.  i am an addict, and i cannot use successfully.  i was a dilaudid junkie.  i am strong and mean about drugs today.  i have a different set of friends, places to go, and things to do.  anyone who offers me drugs is not a friend of mine.  if you want sobriety, you will stay clean, too.  Jails, institutions, and death.

[skipper]

oc head:
although 5 mg of dilaudid (hydromorphone) is a nice little shot of
dope i hardly think it will put you back into major withdrawals.
25 years ago i used to abuse this opiate extensively. it is roughly
equivlent to heroin in strength (hence the nick-name, drug store
heroin). you might notice an increase in cravings, but i doubt it
will amount to more than that.

keep an angel on your shoulder
kip

[groovygirl]

hi skipper...how are you feeling?  i loved what you wrote...it really spoke to me.  i had a truly hellish weekend with no bup since thurs - can't get in touch with the clinic i spent a TON of money on until tomorrow...i need them to increase my dosage a bit, but i don't think they are going to.  bup is very hard to come off if you don't wean waaay down first.

i talked my pharmacist into giving me enough to get thru for the next couple days.  it was weird...i just told him exactly what was going on, and although he didn't have any in stock, he didn't question me and ordered some - it arrived a couple hours later.

[pothead]

Hello to everyone.  This is my first time and I will be brief.  I am a mariujuana addict and a tobacco addict.  I want desperatly to quit both.  I cannot quit one without the other.   Today is my first day in 4 months not getting high and I want tomorrow to be my second.  Today was one of the hardest days of my life.  What I would really like is some "support".  I have found just reading through other people's comments is helpful.  

thank you all