676912 tn?1332812551


So I found out my son is allergic to sesame seeds, peas, moderate allergy to soy, and slightly allergic to milk and egg whites. I've been told not to give him anything with sesame seeds or peas, and I'm taking him back to the dr next Thurs about the peas to find out if it's all or just a specific one they tested for. BUT I still don't know why he's breaking out with red sauces (spaghetti sauces) or why he breaks out in hives with ranch dressing or honey mustard. I've thought about MSG possibly causing his reactions, my husband is calling his mother today because I believe that's something she mentioned she has issues with. I was just curious if anyone here has any ideas. I don't even know what to request that they test for at this point.
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681148 tn?1437661591
As far as peas, be mindful of cross reactions.  It is likely all peas because of cross reactions.  A common allergen is tomatoes and their cousins in the nightshade family, but especially tomatoes.  On any elimination diet tomatoes are forbidden while testing for sensitivities, which are like hidden food allergies.  One doesn't necessarily test positive for these food sensitivities.  Keep this in mind if you have had him tested for tomatoes and it tested negative.  What is commonly called "true allergies" will test positive, whereas suspected "hidden allergies" or sensitivities will not test positive using standard testing at your allergist's office.  My allergist himself recognizes that people can have sensitivities while testing negative to such hidden food allergies.  A sensitivity may not cause anaphylaxis, but it can still cause one to have a reaction.

Other common ingredients in marinara sauces, such as your prepared spaghetti sauces are the preservatives used for such products.  I have issues with these myself.  I also have to be careful with the alum family, especially onions, which I have always hated myself anyway.  Other common ingredients are the various forms of sweeteners often added to these prepared sauces.  Often various forms of corn sweeteners, including but not limited to high fructose corn syrup (HFCS) are added.  One thing you could try is to prepare your own recipe, as there will be fewer ingredients in the sauce.  I do not advise adding wine to your homemade sauce, especially if you're testing for possible reaction to preservatives.  There are high amounts of sulfites in wines, both naturally occuring and added manmade sulfites.  Many people react badly to sulfites.  Some can handle a low load of sulfites and some can handle more than others can, but lowering the amount of sulfites in your son's foods and treats should help.  There are so many other ingredients in the list that I have learned that it simply isn't worth taking the stuff off of the shelf at the grocery store.  And, who knows what all that stuff is?

In general, it is better to buy food that has limited ingredients.  The fewer the better.  Especially for people with allergies and sensitivities.  This is also true when following an elimination diet.  It is better to stick with single ingredients for the most part, because at least you know what you're putting into your body.  I do recommend following an elimination diet to discover food sensitivities that your son doesn't test positive for.  Once you're ready to do the food challenge portion of an elimination diet, the best way to find out if tomatoes themselves are the issue, like if he tests negative but still breaks out when consuming red sauce, is to try plain fresh tomatoes.  They can be cooked or raw.  The trick is to save your sanity and save on confusion by limiting the food in question to that specific ingredient.

For example:  How would you know which items he is allergic to if he had a reaction to eating a slice of pizza?  It's a complex type of food.  There are the ingredients that go into the bread, including the gluten protein in the wheat flour, there is usually a red sauce on most types of pizza, which is also a complexity of ingredients in of itself, and if there is something like pepperoni, this is also a complex ingredient food item.  Pepperoni and sausage are typically made of pork, so is the person eating the item having a reaction to the pork itself or to some of the additional ingredients that make the pork into sausage or pepperoni?  

Therefore, when you do go back to food challenges, you keep the diet simple and be sure that all the other items your son consumes do not have ingredients in them that he might be allergic to or sensitive to.  He would have to still be on the elimination diet, except for that single item you are concerned about.

This is only partial information concerning the elimination diet.  It would be best to get proper guidance from a naturopath who works with children or a nutritionist.  I do believe a naturopath would be the better of the two choices.

Yes, MSG is a culprit for many people.  Here is a website that I have found helpful, since I myself have Tyramine Intolerance.  The site has more places to look at than just the page I'm about to show the link to.  It even has some basic information about elimination diets.  MSG is a preservative that is an allergen or sensitivity for many people, and it must be avoided by people who have migraine disorder or even people with IBS and other digestive issues.  I have to avoid it like the plague myself.  So, yes, MSG is definitely something to consider...


I do think of this site as more of a guideline, because each person with allergies and sensitivities will have either fewer or greater sensitivities to things listed here for Tyramine Intolerance, but it is useful information in general for others who know someone with the issue.  Take a look around the rest of the site, because you will find plenty of information that is more specific to what your concerns are for your son.  I just happen to have this page bookmarked for myself, but I know that it is easy to find more information about food sensitivities and the elimination diets.

I still have the list my own naturopath gave me concerning which foods to avoid during the food elimination diet neutralizing stage, which is the beginning stage.  It will be helpful for you to simplify your entire family's meal planning and just have everyone eating the same foods when it comes to meal time.  Otherwise you'll drive yourself batty for no reason.  Other members of the family will be able to eat other things when they grab a snack.

Ranch dressing and honey mustard are loaded with preservatives and sulfites, too, so I would take that seriously into consideration.  Limiting the amount of sulfites and preservatives should greatly reduce the reactions.  Also, many are actually allergic to the honey itself, like I am.  Or, it could be the type of vinegar used to make the prepared mustard.  Ordinary white vinegar is made with gluten containing grains.  Many people are allergic to wheat rather than all gluten, but it is something certainly worth considering.  The website I gave you the link to explains why wheat is especially bad for many people these days.  The modern hybrid wheat contains 85% gluten.  This certainly explains why some may have problems specifically with wheat and wheat gluten but may be alright with the heirloom varieties, such as spelt or kamut, even though these have some gluten in them.  They simply have considerably less.  But, don't have your son consuming these heirloom wheat varieties while on the elimination diet until the naturopath tells you that it's time to test wheat.  Wheat will be near the end for testing.

Sorry this is so long, but those foods you mentioned are complex foods, and many people don't realize that they are allergic to components of the various food items.  And, many don't consider the amount of food preservatives or dyes and such until they or someone close to them starts to have a problem.  I myself had already been cooking from scratch before I went through this myself, but I had to switch to a whole foods diet in addition to the food elimination diet.  It has literally been a life saver.  Your son will likely be able to eat certain complex foods later, after you discover what the allergens are--but--only if you make such foods from scratch yourself, so there is control of which ingredients are added to the foods.

I discovered that I definitely have a sulfite and preservative issue myself.  If I am mindful, now I can have fresh tomatoes, cooked or raw, but the canned ones are a problem.  This is something worth mentioning, since this could even be an issue for your son.
168348 tn?1379357075

GREAT info from above poster .. I , too, was going to add sulfites to the list ..

Any migraine headaches?

Tyramine with chocolate is another offensive chemical not often detected

Mustard isn't as mundane as it sounds .. people are allergic to it .. it's a seed.

Good Luck and keep us posted!

168348 tn?1379357075
Red Sauces can have all sorts of things in them ... bay leaves to spices and since you mentioned mustard maybe I'd lean on detective areas for spices.

Maybe try our food diary and keep a list of what he eats and symptoms

How old is he?


168348 tn?1379357075
Ohh one other addition if not mentioned above re peas:

Cross reaction to latex .... although may not be directly to peas, it can be to some items and for some reason peas are coming to mind .. two of my children have documented, reactive latex allergies and cross react to foods .. avocado, kiwi,chestnut, hazelnut .. huge offenders.

A bit off topc but the point was latex .  LOL!

676912 tn?1332812551
Thank you both for your responses. I'm not sure yet what it is...we had the Dinty Moore brand beef stew recently and Elijah ended up breaking out in welts around his face to that too...I just don't know what to do with him, lol. His dr recommended not waiting until the normal age of 11 to do further testing, but to do it when he's five, which is a long two years away, but I hope when we do it that it gives us more answers!
168348 tn?1379357075

Some say allergy testing is pointless below a certain age, but most allergists disagree ... if you have a pediatric allergist available that may be a super 2nd opinion because if a child is allergic he/she is allergic .. the antibodies are there .. if they haven't eaten the food and are young, then they may not show up and be deemed false negative.  But if he's reacting, I wonder why they won't do more tests to figure this out?

I'm going to go find and list out the ingredients in the stew to see if anything pops out.

168348 tn?1379357075
Hi again --

Dinty Moore Beef Stew

--->  Potatoes, Beef, Water, Beef, Broth, Carrots, Modified Food Starch, Beef Fat, Salt, Tomato Paste, Carmel Coloring, Sugar Flavoring.

* Zeer . com

Looking @ this listing of ingredients does anything stand out?  Carmel coloring is something that people can be allergic to.  I've seen it often on allergy communities spoken about.  It isn't a top one, but is definitely one to consider. Also, the meat and potatoes stand out too ...

What do you think?


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Many people are allergic to certain food additives or colors. When someone has a reaction after eating certain foods, such an allergy is suspected. Unfortunately, some people do not have a reaction until a day or two later, so it is difficult to know what is causing the problem. When a certain food additive is believed to cause an allergic reaction, doctors can a conduct a test called the RAST (radioallergosorbent test) for only certain natural substances. The RAST is conducted on a patient's blood sample to check for allergic sensitivity. The blood is mixed with materials known to trigger allergies. The test measures the level of allergy antibodies in the blood that are present with an allergic reaction. Such tests for synthetic additives is not reliable. Thus, people have to go on an elimination diet. They stop eating all foods that might be problematic and introduce one at a time to see if a reaction occurs. It is best to eat a preservative-free diet if at all possible. The reaction from these additives can be very mild to life-threatening. They can be immediate or build up in the body over time. Only in recent years have researchers seriously considered the physical impact of these additives over the long term

Although additives and preservatives are essential to maintain food safety, too much of a good thing is not healthy. Besides allergies, these foods may cause stomach pains, vomiting, breathing problems, hives and skin rashes. Some of the worst additives include benzoates, which can cause skin rashes, asthma and perhaps brain damage. Bromates can cause nausea and diarrhea. Saccharin may lead to toxic reactions that impact the gastrointestinal tract and heart, as well as cause tumors and bladder cancer. Red Dye 40 may result in certain birth defects. Sodium chloride can lead to high blood pressure, kidney failure, stroke and heart attack. Such problems are why some doctors are now saying it is better to have a soda with sugar than a diet soda with additives.
It is being increasingly recognized that for the best long-term health and minimal risks of developing health issues from food additives and preservatives, you should eat as little as possible of such foods. Look at the ingredients and try to buy those that are the most natural. Although organic foods are normally more expensive, they do not have artificial additives. Before purchasing canned food, check the ingredients to see how many additives are listed on the label. Compare different brands to find the one with the least added. Also, look for meat that is free of added chemicals. If you are having a reaction when eating, keep a diary to see if it is possible to determine a cause and effect. You cannot stay away from all additives, but some are more problematic than others. Some additives that are not considered much of an issue include maltodextrin, a starch thickening agent and sweetener in canned fruit, dressings and puddings; sodium carboxymethyl-cellulose, which keeps sugar from becoming crystallized in beer, pie fillings, ice cream and candy; and thiamin mononitrate, which is a type of vitamin B-1 in cereals and flour.

Read more: About Food Additives & Preservatives | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_4571870_food-additives-preservatives.html#ixzz1LUKHrbBS
I have food allergy, almost all foods i ate gives rashes, if i elliminate those foods what will i eat? also food spicies and ingredients can cause rashes, Is there a way  to counter act those allergens by eating certain food- not medicine to neutralize the allergic effect of food?
168348 tn?1379357075
Hi Everyone,

Here's a Health page with the info above re Food Additives & Preservatives  -- this way we can easily reference it!


1666434 tn?1325262350
Great link ChitChatNine!

I have to mention my mother-in-law is severely allergic to sesame so we always have to be super careful when we are eating out and make sure we ask in advance if something is cooked in sesame oil.  Not to mention all the products out there that contain sesame in them.  Kashi brand cereals and granolas I love, but yes almost every product seems to have sesame in there so I always have to warn her.  She actually developed this allergy in her 50's of all times lol
681148 tn?1437661591
Yes, there are so many hidden allergens.  I forget about which common foods have all these hidden ingredients in them, because with the whole foods approach to food I know what's in the food.  I know, because I put the stuff in myself.

The problem comes when eating out, which I just don't do all that much because I can't afford to.

I suppose you know, then, that your mother-in-law should be aware of the potential cross-reaction of poppy seeds.  This connection because of all the stories out there about people testing positive for drugs when they innocently ate something with sesame seeds or poppy seeds and have nothing to do with the illegal drug world.  Most people know about the poppy seed connection, but sesame seeds cause false positives, too.  So, it seems reasonable, then, to be aware of the potential issue with poppy seeds, too.

I never buy prepared cereals any more because I avoid packaged foods.  So, I was unaware of sesame hidden in the Kashi brand of cereals.  What a peculiar place to hide sesame oil.  One would expect sesame oil in certain types of Asian cooking, as well as MSG in many types of Asian cooking, but not so much in a breakfast cereal.  This is a very good example of how important it is to read all those labels carefully when buying anything in a box or a can or package of any kind.

The other thing about food labels that people may not know about is that there are some things that by law manufacturers do not have to add to the label.  It's a loophole for certain types of ingredients.  Like, if the manufacturer adds a certain kind of ingredient but the manufacturer didn't make that particular ingredient, unless there is a specific law that states otherwise, the final manufacturer does not have to tell you about the additive that came already in the ingredient that he added.  So, if the manufacturer added something that isn't a whole food ingredient, there are some loophole laws that do not require him to add the ingredients on the food label if he himself didn't add the ingredient components to the complex ingredient.  To some extent for certain additives they still have to list the extensive list of components to a more complex ingredient, if it is a more common allergen that the law requires, but not always.  This is something I learned from someone with a severe soy allergy:  Not everything that has soy in the complex ingredient has to be listed on the final manufacturer's label.  

The trick is that we have to know things like the fact that many products, like powdered milk, for example have multitudes of sulfites added in the making of powdered milk.  But, the manufacturers do not have to tell us this.  Not all yogurt and kefir manufacturers even list powdered milk in their list of ingredients either.  Yet, all of them use powdered milk in their products.  I had to learn the hard way, since these products cause a reaction on my lips immediately upon contact.

Processed foods are great for people who don't have these allergies, but plenty of people do.  I got tired of reading labels.  It's less expensive and healthier to eat whole foods.  At least I know what I'm eating.  Yeah, I miss out on a small handful of things, but I learned how to compensate on others, so that I can make many of the foods everyone else eats for myself.
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My son had many allergies too. But most of them already dissappeared.
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