is this biopolar disorder, depression whatever is a diabities

[piroo]

The best is to take medicine for life time. Doctor is good but sometime scary really confuses that one day will be without medicine . I didnot see even one example. Never heard before it cured fully. They treat well. Does anybody trust that in this illness doctor lies sometimes?

[looloo141]

My first post was directed at someone who I differed in opinion with its not to you piroo, or lindahand. It was in response to a post that has since been removed.
The second post is to you piroo.

[looloo141]

I understand how you feel, lots of times I have felt that professionals lie..but then I have realised that they have to use powers of persuasion to get us to take meds, my doctor gives me a worse case scenario sometimes so I don't have any expectation, he doesn't lie to me, but I have to remember that at that time I am ill, my family think I'm ill and that he doesn't want me to blow up at him so he has to say things in a certain manner.
Psychiatrists know better than anyone else how paranoid we are, how scared, how distrustfful we are, they know that we are against meds, they know we could be violent so they have to tread very carefully, they want whats best for us but they have a duty to the public and our families too..

As lindahand said there is no cure, but it can be managed and some can lead fairly normal lives..It is very confusing sometimes when you see the doctor, you could get a friend to go with you and that helps to make more sense of things, doctors have different styles, some seem very calm and will take their time, some are abrupt and think patients don't need to know certain things, others think its best to tell the patient all the details, some doctors aren't great to be honest!

As for the meds, it is a very individual thing, some people do need meds for life, some need them as a when..what is important to remember is that you don't know what is around the corner, life changes, we learn to cope.
For me it has changed a lot, I started meds at 17, and stayed on them on and off until age 24. I was completely free of meds ( apart from a few sleeping tabs ) for nearly 4 years, I had ups and downs, I had a few hypomania's but they didn't do too much damage, it was more just getting my life back after a horrendous marriage, I just wanted to be young and party LOL. Then eventually the depression got the better of me and I had to face facts that I needed meds, but this was MY decision, I knew from experience that I needed to see a doctor, I did that myself, we should be credited for our insight sometimes.
Now my opinion is that I need my meds, when the time is right I'd like to come off them again, but now after my previous experiences I think I will stay on the mood stabiliser at a low dose just to maintain my health as if it was a physical illness, like asthma, it would prevent any mood swings and if the worst happened I wouldn't have to get used to starting a new med, they would just increase it..

Nobody can possibly say how you will get on with these meds, there is so much to consider.. don't worry too much. We have all felt like you do..like linda says find a new psychiatrist, sometimes we just don't gel with certain people.

Hugs

[looloo141]

What about doctors in the UK? Over here our Pyschiatrists are pushed to the limit by the NHS. Maybe if we paid for our care like you guys do in the US we would be able to pick and choose our Pdoc, therapy, Psychologist etc.. our Pyschiatrists work as part of a team, and its too complicated to blame them for our diagnosis, they won't jump into anything because there is too much red tape, medication is not just a last resort, but the only option to most people, but wherever possible our meds will be reduced.
We have CPN's that we see on a regular basis and these nurses do an amazing job, they speak for us and pass vital information to the Pdoc, its not as simple as a Psychiatrist dishing out prescriptions. I agree with lindahand, I've met lots of individuals in the mental health team in 14 years, there has been some that I like, some that I dislike but I have never met a liar. We have to pay for our prescriptions unless on benefits, the type of meds that I am on are very expensive, one in particular, but my Pdoc prescribed the most expensive one as it was whats best for me, instead of thinking of the cost to the NHS..
Its a very contraversial issue, that I don't want to get into, and I can't comment about Pdocs in the US but I don't see how a doctor would diagnose you with something you haven't got.

[lindahand]

There is no cure for bipolar but some doctors think it is best to be without medication inbetween episodes. As scary as the psychiatrist is you need to ask questions. I doubt the doctor lies but perhaps you don't understand fully what he means or there is conflicting evidence and he has changed his mind about something. If you think your psychiatrist is lying to you it is probably time to find a new psychiatrist.

I personally believe it is best for me to stay on meds, but I go crazy when off meds pretty quickly. Some bipolar people can go years inbetween episodes. Those people perhaps don't need to be on medication that whole time, or on greatly reduced doses.

There is also a growing movement that says no psyc med should be taken as overal outcomes are the same or better for people off medications. I've looked into this and believe the research quoted is misinterpreted or it is poor quality research. I believe the research that says that untreated bipolar episodes are dangerous because it leads to higher suicide rates, and that each episode you have makes it more likely you'll have another episode. The research unfortunately stinks. There is not enough money pumped into proper impartial research to make any decent statements.

I think there are probably psychiatrists that lie, but I would say it is very few of them. I think most psychiatrist truly want what is best for their patients.