14 year old boys masturbating in class

[grinch45]

I am a regular education teacher.  I have two male students, age 14, who have,  masturbated in class.  One more frequently than the other.  They are not diagnosed with anything more serious than ADHD. I want them to get the help they need.  I also know that their behavior is obvious enough to impact the learning environment.  I have been told this is not the case because no parent has complained.  I feel that most 14 year olds find this behavior extremely embarrasing and will not mention it.  I have been told that they cannot be removed from my class.  Please help.

[lisaob1]

hi...its really quite remarkable the response off your post you have had..i dont know where u are from and how your educational system works...but ye know what?..... with all due respect..no matter how much you try to dress it up or put the blame on anybody else,..14 yr olds masturbating in your classroom is highly..HIGHLY...absolutely..so unacceptable beyond belief...
end of discussion i think

[lisaob1]

In all fairness the initial post was a couple of 14 year olds masturbating in a classroom..a classroom of children with no problems regarding health or otherwise... if your mother is a teacher,.i ask you.. what would your mother do if this behaviour happened in her classroom?..

[margypops]

That was also my thought ,,,are the other parents uninformed ...unbelievable that they are allowed to remain in class..

[allmymarbles]

What I find extraordinarily weird is the administration. What about the other parents? Haven't they objected? Or don't they know what is going on?

You are in a most unfortunate situation - seeing something unhealthy and not being able to do anything about it. Do you know someone really important in your town, someone more influential than the school administration, who can put a stop to this behavior? Or can the boys be transferred to a special ed class?

[specialmom]

Yes, sandman, there is a boy with downs syndrome that actually was touching through his pants and his one on one aide forbid it and redirected.  so many cut backs means that these aides are spread more thinly.  What girl would want to sit next to this boy or should have to?  I mean, really.  Gross.  I have a boy with challenges and can appreciate how difficult that is and all in favor of inclusion education, but behavior that is outside of acceptable has to be dealt with in my opinion.  

I too feel for the poster.  Very very hard!

[Sandman2]

    I agree with that any parent would be mortified if they knew this was going on.  That fact that there apparently has not been much parental complaints going on does suggest some possibilities.  One is that there has been no public exposure of body parts.  This would be illegal and would be dealt with.  Two, the kids in the class are used to the behavior (maybe from last year and just kind of say something like, " Oh there ole Henry doing it again - how gross"  and ignore it.  And frankly 14 year old kids just don't tend to communicate very much with there parents about school anyway.
    But, that's all just guessing.  There really is a lot we don't know.
What I do know is that if a school district can't meet the needs of a special education child, then the child is eligible for private placement.  This can cost the district up to $100,000 a year, and there are a lot of parents just waiting for that opportunity.  I've got a feeling that this is part of what may be involved here - which is why the superintendent is probably not going to get involved.   Also the child's IEP may be written in such a way that he can not get suspended for what he is doing.   I wasn't kidding when I said welcome to the world of special education - it is a very complicated, expensive field.
    Perhaps the one thing that does surprise me is that I have had some special ed students over the years with some pretty severe problems.  In most cases there was a one-on-one aide assigned to them or a aide assigned to a group of them (I could get 6 or more at a time).   The aide would have the child immediately outside the room if something like this started.   But here again - that is a money item.
    Anyway, its a very difficult situation.  I appreciate Grinch coming back on and reposting with the information he did.  And I really feel for him as he is probably in the most difficult position.  I do hope the school counselors and special ed department are giving him some kind of  support.