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Poll: Majority of Americans against government provided healthcare coverage
(CNN) – President Barack Obama's re-election neutralized efforts by Republicans to overturn the Affordable Care Act and marks the continued implementation of the law, but a majority of Americans now say it's not the federal government's role to provide healthcare insurance coverage.
The Gallup poll indicates 54% of Americans believe guaranteed healthcare coverage is not the government's responsibility while 44% believe it is - the first time since 2000 the Gallup poll trend has shown a majority of Americans feel the government should not be responsible for providing healthcare insurance coverage for all Americans.
Before 2009, a plurality of Americans believed the government should make sure all Americans have healthcare coverage but since then Americans have wavered in their support of the idea of government-guaranteed healthcare.
While the Affordable Care Act passed in March 2010, Obama's November 6 re-election victory paved the way to implementation of the remaining portions of the law. Prior to Obama re-election and following a Supreme Court June ruling upholding most of the president's initiative, the law allowed for patients with pre-existing conditions access to insurance and young adults to stay on their parents' insurance plans.
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SOURCE: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/28/poll-majority-of-americans-against-government-provided-healthcare-coverage/?hpt=po_c2
The Gallup poll indicates 54% of Americans believe guaranteed healthcare coverage is not the government's responsibility while 44% believe it is - the first time since 2000 the Gallup poll trend has shown a majority of Americans feel the government should not be responsible for providing healthcare insurance coverage for all Americans.
Before 2009, a plurality of Americans believed the government should make sure all Americans have healthcare coverage but since then Americans have wavered in their support of the idea of government-guaranteed healthcare.
While the Affordable Care Act passed in March 2010, Obama's November 6 re-election victory paved the way to implementation of the remaining portions of the law. Prior to Obama re-election and following a Supreme Court June ruling upholding most of the president's initiative, the law allowed for patients with pre-existing conditions access to insurance and young adults to stay on their parents' insurance plans.
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SOURCE: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/28/poll-majority-of-americans-against-government-provided-healthcare-coverage/?hpt=po_c2
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I'm not saying that it is going to be easy or that the transition will be seamless. I accept that there will be problems and undoubtedly there will have to be adjustments and changes. One foreseeable problem is a shortage of primary care physicians and that does trouble me. The bottom line for me is that our current system is not working and it's only going to get worse. We have to make significant changes and the ACA is what we've got and I am going to embrace it with optimism and hope.
Mike
I'm not saying that it is going to be easy or that the transition will be seamless. I accept that there will be problems and undoubtedly there will have to be adjustments and changes. One foreseeable problem is a shortage of primary care physicians and that does trouble me. The bottom line for me is that our current system is not working and it's only going to get worse. We have to make significant changes and the ACA is what we've got and I am going to embrace it with optimism and hope.
Mike
You and I disagree about healthcare being a right. I believe that it is a right or that it should be a right. The right of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness seems rather hollow if we are not afforded the opportunity to be healthy. Health is critical - it is perhaps the most critical feature of life and it is inextricably linked to the pursuit of happiness...in my opinion. I know this is a complex subject and there isn't room here to discuss it thoroughly.
You've mentioned that you deal with pre-diabetes and diabetes. In my opinion diabetes is one of the most mismanaged chronic diseases we see today. Proper diabetes management is so very much more cost efficient than is dealing with the complications which arise from not properly managing the disease. When we get to the point where body parts are being trimmed or eyesight is shutting down or cardiovascular events are cascading the costs and the suffering become huge. But, if people are able to access healthcare before these terrible complications result then they have an opportunity to achieve a significantly better state of health and also avoid the horrible suffering - financially, physically and emotionally - that we see so often in the less fortunate members of our society. If people were diagnosed early - perhaps before they acquired full blown diabetes or shortly thereafter - and treatments and lifestyle changes were initiated early we could avoid serious consequences and major expenditures and suffering and most importantly we'd have a healthier citizenry.
That is just one example of the way in which access to healthcare could result in decreasing the overall cost of providing healthcare and dramatically improving the quality of life for our less fortunate citizens. There are myriad more.
Mike
You've mentioned that you deal with pre-diabetes and diabetes. In my opinion diabetes is one of the most mismanaged chronic diseases we see today. Proper diabetes management is so very much more cost efficient than is dealing with the complications which arise from not properly managing the disease. When we get to the point where body parts are being trimmed or eyesight is shutting down or cardiovascular events are cascading the costs and the suffering become huge. But, if people are able to access healthcare before these terrible complications result then they have an opportunity to achieve a significantly better state of health and also avoid the horrible suffering - financially, physically and emotionally - that we see so often in the less fortunate members of our society. If people were diagnosed early - perhaps before they acquired full blown diabetes or shortly thereafter - and treatments and lifestyle changes were initiated early we could avoid serious consequences and major expenditures and suffering and most importantly we'd have a healthier citizenry.
That is just one example of the way in which access to healthcare could result in decreasing the overall cost of providing healthcare and dramatically improving the quality of life for our less fortunate citizens. There are myriad more.
Mike
That is why I get so angry when I see so many cling to the status-quo like it's working.
You won't hear me say that. I'm in full agreement the hc system needs major changes. Costs are out of control, premiums are barely affordable (if you seek insurance out on your own, even WITH an employer in many cases), and things like preexisting conditions need dealt with (to start).
I just don't think the proposition on the table was well thought out. I truly don't. Repubs presented many different ideas for adjustments and changes, so they could be on board...they were all shot down, so yes, in the end, they voted "no". It wasn't in any way part of anything they agreed with.
My honest to God opinion is that Obama is SO anxious to make this his legacy (which is will be) that it was rushed through. I think something of this magnitude should have taken a lot more time, and a lot more discussion and thought before a final draft was presented that was more palatable to everyone (including the people themselves).
I hope this is a major success, I truly do. I don't want my gut to be right...that would mean bad things. And I DO recognize that part of my fear and reservation is simply due to the fact that it's SUCH a huge change, a dive into the unknown. This is a HUGE deal...it changes the entire healthcare system. Being professional invested in that, that's a scary thing for me. I would imagine that people who are personally invested in it (like you mike) have even more at stake. For that reason, I hope it goes forward with a great outcome.
You won't hear me say that. I'm in full agreement the hc system needs major changes. Costs are out of control, premiums are barely affordable (if you seek insurance out on your own, even WITH an employer in many cases), and things like preexisting conditions need dealt with (to start).
I just don't think the proposition on the table was well thought out. I truly don't. Repubs presented many different ideas for adjustments and changes, so they could be on board...they were all shot down, so yes, in the end, they voted "no". It wasn't in any way part of anything they agreed with.
My honest to God opinion is that Obama is SO anxious to make this his legacy (which is will be) that it was rushed through. I think something of this magnitude should have taken a lot more time, and a lot more discussion and thought before a final draft was presented that was more palatable to everyone (including the people themselves).
I hope this is a major success, I truly do. I don't want my gut to be right...that would mean bad things. And I DO recognize that part of my fear and reservation is simply due to the fact that it's SUCH a huge change, a dive into the unknown. This is a HUGE deal...it changes the entire healthcare system. Being professional invested in that, that's a scary thing for me. I would imagine that people who are personally invested in it (like you mike) have even more at stake. For that reason, I hope it goes forward with a great outcome.
Thank you for your very clear thoughts on this matter.
It is such a big issue it is hard to speak intelligently about it-you just gave us a mini Clinton .:)
It is such a big issue it is hard to speak intelligently about it-you just gave us a mini Clinton .:)
People may say they're against the ACA but when you poll them on the provisions they are all for them. People balk at one provision - mandatory care. And I can understand that. The truth is it can't be done without very very broad participation and the mandate is probably the only way to accomplish that. I pay for the healthcare for my employees and I admit I have less than 20. But, I have seen the increases and paid those increases at every renewal date and it's gotten out of control. I know that if it continues to increase like it has over the last 15 years it will be very hard to afford. And, whether anyone admits it we do pay for the emergency department visits where the vast majority of the uninsured get their primary healthcare. I am all for trying a new way and the ACA looks reasonable to me. And, I really care about my fellow Americans. I will sacrifice for them without any second thoughts. That is why I get so angry when I see so many cling to the status-quo like it's working. I wonder whether some of the people here have health insurance and, if so, whether they know what it costs or whether they pay for it. If they do and they think things are working fine then I have a real problem with their reality. And, one more thing. I have a liver transplant(June 2000) so I am tied to the medical community for life and if I truly believed our care would deteriorate like so many appear to think I would assuredly have strong reservations about the ACA. This is not a subject that I can afford to be cavalier about and I'm not worried one bit. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Mike
Mike
He made a campaign promise and he kept it. Thats how I see it. And, the final result were mostly republican ideas, because Obama wanted single payor which republicans rejected so this final result was a compromise. It was also during a time when republicans had vowed to not cooperate with him on anything and fox news in particular went on a campaign to poison the people about what was in it. Not one single republican voted in favor of it because of their efforts to not cooperate, not that the plan was a bad idea. In fact it was the same plan romney had in his state and the same people that modeled that one, helped model this one. It is essentially one and the same and thus far the people who have romney care love it, mandate and all.
I remember hearing about death panels and such bazaar stuff and unfortunately where dems dropped the ball was on the education of the public, was very weak giving the gop even more ammo.
But regardless, if people were that adamant against it as which is rumored, Obama would not have been re elected. imo
I remember hearing about death panels and such bazaar stuff and unfortunately where dems dropped the ball was on the education of the public, was very weak giving the gop even more ammo.
But regardless, if people were that adamant against it as which is rumored, Obama would not have been re elected. imo
Yet, not so much now as the president has been re elected, ACA and all. I think that says all that needs saying other than, it is now the law of the land. .
Yeah, but I don't think it's a wise move to push through something on such a huge scale as this, without more support behind it. Back when it was being passed (I remember watching it live on TV, we were at our mountain timeshare)...the news coverage was indicating that something like 95+% of people said that some kind of HC reform was needed, but only 32% of the people supported ACA. It would have been nice if he compromised a bit. There were other options presented, and even "edited" versions of the ACA that would have allowed for less gov't involvement. He shot them down.
I also find it interesting that he flipped flopped a bit. A lot of people think he's so passionate about providing healthcare, when really, it started out as a way to get him ahead in the polls.
Don't get me wrong, I'm, not faulting HIM for that...that's politics, but it is an interesting facttoid. He was actually "against" it in 2007.
Yeah, but I don't think it's a wise move to push through something on such a huge scale as this, without more support behind it. Back when it was being passed (I remember watching it live on TV, we were at our mountain timeshare)...the news coverage was indicating that something like 95+% of people said that some kind of HC reform was needed, but only 32% of the people supported ACA. It would have been nice if he compromised a bit. There were other options presented, and even "edited" versions of the ACA that would have allowed for less gov't involvement. He shot them down.
I also find it interesting that he flipped flopped a bit. A lot of people think he's so passionate about providing healthcare, when really, it started out as a way to get him ahead in the polls.
Don't get me wrong, I'm, not faulting HIM for that...that's politics, but it is an interesting facttoid. He was actually "against" it in 2007.
Yet, not so much now as the president has been re elected, ACA and all. I think that says all that needs saying other than, it is now the law of the land.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/30/us/politics/health-care-overhaul-is-still-no-hit-with-public.html?pagewanted=all
32% supported it when it passed. That's always been an issue for me...he passed it through without very much support.
From the article:
By contrast, just 32 percent supported the Affordable Care Act when it was approved in March 2010, according to a New York Times/CBS News poll. As of a month ago, 34 percent supported it, virtually unchanged. To be sure, about a fifth of those who oppose it say it did not go far enough, essentially frustrated liberals.
That Mr. Obama’s presidency may be defined by the law would have seemed unlikely in March 2007, when as a presidential candidate he showed up for a health care forum in Las Vegas unprepared, by his own admission. When he finally developed a plan, he rejected requiring American adults to obtain health insurance and pilloried his chief opponent, Hillary Rodham Clinton, for supporting it.
Very interesting. If you read on, it appears that healthcare became important to Obama due to it helping his campaign.
32% supported it when it passed. That's always been an issue for me...he passed it through without very much support.
From the article:
By contrast, just 32 percent supported the Affordable Care Act when it was approved in March 2010, according to a New York Times/CBS News poll. As of a month ago, 34 percent supported it, virtually unchanged. To be sure, about a fifth of those who oppose it say it did not go far enough, essentially frustrated liberals.
That Mr. Obama’s presidency may be defined by the law would have seemed unlikely in March 2007, when as a presidential candidate he showed up for a health care forum in Las Vegas unprepared, by his own admission. When he finally developed a plan, he rejected requiring American adults to obtain health insurance and pilloried his chief opponent, Hillary Rodham Clinton, for supporting it.
Very interesting. If you read on, it appears that healthcare became important to Obama due to it helping his campaign.
The majority of people were against it when Obama pushed it through. There was a media frenzy about that. It was something like almost 60% of Americans didn't agree with Obamacare. Let me see if I can find an article.
Hey, you've been complaining since the election about the majority choice for President but now you want to imbue that same majority with wisdom and judgment when it comes to healthcare. Maybe we should have an election on the issue and present the pros and cons clearly and you know what? Your side would lose again.
Like always - it depends on whose ox is being gored.
Like always - it depends on whose ox is being gored.
Funny... when a poll says something that you agree with, where you are in the majority, it's valid.
When the poll shows you're in the minority, all of sudden, "yeah thanks, but I'll pass".
I didn't post this for any other reason than to start a discussion, and before you even think about it, you toss it aside simply because it disagrees with what you think?
Come on Teko, you're better than that.
The point is, at least HALF of the country isn't "all in" when it comes to ACA. The poll may not be spot-on, but it can't be more than +/- 10 points, in either direction.
When the poll shows you're in the minority, all of sudden, "yeah thanks, but I'll pass".
I didn't post this for any other reason than to start a discussion, and before you even think about it, you toss it aside simply because it disagrees with what you think?
Come on Teko, you're better than that.
The point is, at least HALF of the country isn't "all in" when it comes to ACA. The poll may not be spot-on, but it can't be more than +/- 10 points, in either direction.
The GALLOP Poll? Ah yes, the very one that had Romney winning the election. Yeah, thanks but I will pass.
Most people I know that voted for Romney did so with the hope he could overturn that bill. I predict a big mess like several other government sponsored programs.
I accept this article..However, once the ACA is implemented fully and people are using it and benefiting from it, it will gain popularity..Just wait and see...If I'm wrong then so be it but I doubt it..lol
Now... I AM in the majority here.
Healthcare is NOT the gov't responsibility to provide & police.
Just this man's humble opinion.
Healthcare is NOT the gov't responsibility to provide & police.
Just this man's humble opinion.
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