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Chronic Kidney Failure in Dogs User Group

If anyone wishes to join the Group (your input and participation will be appreciated) or anyone that has a dog with Chronic Kidney Failure and wants information, advice or support ... please click the following link: http://www.medhelp.org/groups/chronic_kidney_failure_in_dogs

Tony
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Hi
here's my tips hope it helps. my 16 year old sheltie Saffy was very bad, having seizures last Oct 2015. given 5 days to live by vets.  after a couple of months of struggles, and a few ups and downs like you describe, i am convinced that totally home made, 100% certified organic, and no drugs or commercial food is the way to go. that commercial KD dog food is in my opinion expensive and questionable quality - read the ingredients!

sounds to me like your dog is in trouble if you don't move fast. look at "Five Leaf Pet Pharmacy" on the web. buy and follow their program to the absolute letter. find a good butcher to make up some good high fat certified organic mince, and a good grocer who has fresh, certified organic veg and groceries (not sure how hard that is elsewhere, I am in australia),

if your dog won't eat, you have to liquify the food in a blender with filtered water and then syringe feed. tiny amounts at a time.
- i use slippery elm (break open the capsule and put into a tiny amount of water) to help settle the stomach (i understand it gives a 'coating' to the system). give 20 minutes before the first feed of the day when really very sick, maybe later after lunch again if you think necessary. should only need first day or two when you are trying to stop the vomiting.
- if i sense she is nauseous i use powdered ginger in a bit of warm milk or yoghurt. 3-4 times per day until she is back on track.
- raw apple cider vinegar is a good antacid, but i have found can be a bit much if she has been vomiting and her insides are sensitive.
- lots of finely powdered egg shell in food to help the phosphorus levels seems to work. this is permanent now in every meal.

my bottom line is that i will keep going only so long as Saffy is enjoying life, so far so good.
wish you the best.
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I would like to join group
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Use the MedHelp Search Bar and type in CHRONIC KIDNEY FAILURE IN DOGS USER GROUP. This should take you straight to the Group where you can join to become a member and post any questions you may have - or just join in discussions there.
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Hi. I found this forum while researching chronic kidney disease. My 14-year old Pomeranian Zeus was diagnosed with kidney disease back in July 2015 after he stopped eating. Since then, it's been a roller coaster and keeping him eating has been a real challenge. He's been on IV fluids twice a week and his BUN and creatine levels have actually improved. While his BUN levels were still in the 60's, but had dropped from the 70's; his creatine level was 1.4 which was within normal range. His last blood work was done about 2 months ago. He is on Benazapril for his kidneys and Mirtazapine and Pepcid for nausea, but lately it's been hard to give to him because he just doesn't want to eat. I basically offer him a buffet and hope he eats something off of it, but not always. He will eat a few bites of a hamburger and the refuse it. The next feeding he will eat a couple bites of his kidney food, then spit it out. I offer him something else, he turns his head. Sometimes it takes 3 to 4 offerings to get him to take something.

He is still very alert and responsive. He doesn't seem to be drinking excessive amounts of water nor does he sleep more then usual.

I know eventually the time will come when we have to say goodbye and I'm starting to think that it might be near. Any advice/suggestions/support would be great.
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Hi. Try joining our User Group ... Use the MedHelp Search Bar and type in CHRONIC KIDNEY FAILURE IN DOGS USER GROUP. This should take you straight to the Group where you can join to become a member and post any questions you may have - or just join in discussions there.

I administrate the group and tend to see postings there and am able to respond faster than on the general Dogs forum.

I would suggest two things for starters. First, 2 months is quite a long time in kidney disease, so it's worth having a full blood panel test done again - along with a urinalysis - and a new blood pressure check. Once you get the results, post them to me on the forum. Make sure there's BUN, creatinine, phosphorus, amylase, RBC count, WBC count, sodium, potassium and calcium done. Urinalysis should include culture and sensitivity testing (for any infections), specific gravity and protein leakage.

Next, I would start feeding smaller amounts more often. This really helps de-stress the kidneys and can improve appetite and eating. The best way of approaching this is to take the normal daily food amount for the size, breed and weight f your dog and then split this ideally into 6 equal portions, feeding every 2 hours. This of course isn't always possible to do, but if you can, it really will help.

If he is still on IV fluids, then it may take a short time for the treatment to "kick in" so be patient. If the IVs have finished, then you should be continuing with SubQ fluids at home for some weeks, using Lactated Ringer fluids.

Hope this helps.

Tony
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Use the MedHelp Search Bar and type in CHRONIC KIDNEY FAILURE IN DOGS USER GROUP. This should take you straight to the Group where you can join to become a member and post any questions you may have - or just join in discussions there.
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Hello. Thank you for being a support. I have a 13 year old longhaired chiuaua that has been diagnosed with early stages chronic kidney disease just a couple of months ago. The excess water intake started about a year ago but it was Summer and we were going for more walks. It seemed to stop but then started again and he now goes just 4-5 hours before needing to go outside, sometimes less. He drinks about 3 cups of water a day and weighs about 13 pounds. He also leaks in his sleep from time to time. He wakes me up pretty early for more water and i usually find a mess to clean up. He has Adisons and we have managed it for about 8-9 years. If you had to guess how long can we expect him to live, months?
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Hi. It is impossible answer your question without full blood test results, urinalysis report and certain other tests, including blood pressure and SDMA.

If it is early stages (depends on which early stage) and you are properly managing the symptoms and abnormal blood values with diet, medication and supplements, then you should expect months of life and possibly even one or two years.

Tony
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I have a question. My pup (2 and a half years old) has chronic kidney failure, he's been on fluid therapy for two weeks now but his creatinine went up to 14. Is there anything I can do besides giving him his medication and fluids ? Can he recover from this? Or is him passing inevitable ? I dont want to put him down, he is my everything, but I dont want him to suffer. I just lost my older dog, I dont think I can let my pup go.
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Hi. First and foremost ... kidney disease is fatal. It will ultimately end in death. This is regardless of management and treatment. There is no cure. That said, if it is diagnosed early enough, owners and vets can collaborate to improve and extend life - sometimes by a few weeks, more often by a few months and sometimes even by a year or two. Much depends on the stage of the disease and the amount of organ tissue remaining at the point of diagnosis and intervention.

Can you let me know what kind of fluid therapy was and is being given (is this IV fluids given by the vet or SubQ fluids given by yourself)?

Also, what type of fluids were/are being given (saline or lactated ringer)?

Has your dog had their blood pressure checked by the vet?

What medications are being given?

What are you feeding him and how often per day?

Has the vet undertaken a urinalysis for specific gravity and protein leakage? Has your dog been checked for any urinary infections (culture and sensitivity testing of urine)?

Finally, other than creatinine and BUN, were there any other abnormal values shown on the blood results?

Tony
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