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Sudden acute attacks of intense pain
Hi,
Just wondering if I need a second opinion, my dog has had intense sudden attacks of pain for the past 2 days, it was weekend so I waited until monday morning to take to the vet, thinking he hurt himself maybe slipped down stairs and maybe pulled muscle or something whilst I was out.
The pain comes on suddenly, he is not wimpering and appeared normal until 2 days ago, he ate normally, and his stools were almost normal but maybe a little runny, thinking it may have been runny due to beef liver treats I gave him 2 days running. (about a handful over two days), he is a bishon frize, male 13year old desexed, the pain comes on whilst he is sleeping, laying or even just walking around the house, it lasts 15-20 seconds and just screams in agony.
He has no vomiting, he is a little overweight, eats mainly biscuits and lamb necks ( i Suppose they are a bit fatty, but do cut of the fat) my son gives him treats like ham or cheese,.
He pants and screams severly whilst having an attack, and so far is having about 3-4 a day. He also hunches over and tries to jump up on me.
He has no difficulty jumping up on furniture or jumping down, or being picked up.
The vet did blood work and found almost normal blood, she gave me some pain killers and anti inflammatory and told me to come back in 5 days if not better to do some xrays, although she said its hard not to know where to xray, well understandable I suppose.
I am worried if it is something that could kill him, should I get a second opinion from another vet, this is the first time I have been to this vet as I just moved into this area.
Please help.
Just wondering if I need a second opinion, my dog has had intense sudden attacks of pain for the past 2 days, it was weekend so I waited until monday morning to take to the vet, thinking he hurt himself maybe slipped down stairs and maybe pulled muscle or something whilst I was out.
The pain comes on suddenly, he is not wimpering and appeared normal until 2 days ago, he ate normally, and his stools were almost normal but maybe a little runny, thinking it may have been runny due to beef liver treats I gave him 2 days running. (about a handful over two days), he is a bishon frize, male 13year old desexed, the pain comes on whilst he is sleeping, laying or even just walking around the house, it lasts 15-20 seconds and just screams in agony.
He has no vomiting, he is a little overweight, eats mainly biscuits and lamb necks ( i Suppose they are a bit fatty, but do cut of the fat) my son gives him treats like ham or cheese,.
He pants and screams severly whilst having an attack, and so far is having about 3-4 a day. He also hunches over and tries to jump up on me.
He has no difficulty jumping up on furniture or jumping down, or being picked up.
The vet did blood work and found almost normal blood, she gave me some pain killers and anti inflammatory and told me to come back in 5 days if not better to do some xrays, although she said its hard not to know where to xray, well understandable I suppose.
I am worried if it is something that could kill him, should I get a second opinion from another vet, this is the first time I have been to this vet as I just moved into this area.
Please help.
Hi Karla,
Thanks for your well wishes, took nightmare to the vet and he has a thyroid underactive problem, the vet gave him Oroxine twice daily and that should fix him up. The bloods showed it and the rest of the blood work was fine.
Checked all his lumps and bumps and just fat tissue, so luckily he is ok.
He is so lonely, so my husband decided to get another puppy so we went to a breeder and brought home a little bichon male and called him Napoleon, Leo for short.
He is beautiful and jumps all over Nightmare, Nightmare just growls its only been a few days now but he sleeps with him at night in the laundry and wake up I find them on the bed together, so he has company and dosnt look as miserable. I still cry myself to sleep, I just miss that little face of hers so much. The little puppy keeps me busy during the day so I dont cry as much, I carry my minnies photo around with me, every time I look in my bag she is in the little pocket which I always look into.. I think it will be a long long time before tears dont come to my eyes every time I think of her, she was an adorable little girl.
Anyhow, hopefully with the tablets nightmare will be fine and will enjoy his remaining years I hope.
Funny I dreamt about her the other night, she was surrounded by hundreds of little puppy faces and was so happy and smiling , I heard her little bell and her little panting, I hope she truly is running free and playing.
Thanks
Penny
Thanks for your well wishes, took nightmare to the vet and he has a thyroid underactive problem, the vet gave him Oroxine twice daily and that should fix him up. The bloods showed it and the rest of the blood work was fine.
Checked all his lumps and bumps and just fat tissue, so luckily he is ok.
He is so lonely, so my husband decided to get another puppy so we went to a breeder and brought home a little bichon male and called him Napoleon, Leo for short.
He is beautiful and jumps all over Nightmare, Nightmare just growls its only been a few days now but he sleeps with him at night in the laundry and wake up I find them on the bed together, so he has company and dosnt look as miserable. I still cry myself to sleep, I just miss that little face of hers so much. The little puppy keeps me busy during the day so I dont cry as much, I carry my minnies photo around with me, every time I look in my bag she is in the little pocket which I always look into.. I think it will be a long long time before tears dont come to my eyes every time I think of her, she was an adorable little girl.
Anyhow, hopefully with the tablets nightmare will be fine and will enjoy his remaining years I hope.
Funny I dreamt about her the other night, she was surrounded by hundreds of little puppy faces and was so happy and smiling , I heard her little bell and her little panting, I hope she truly is running free and playing.
Thanks
Penny
Oh Penny....I'm so sad for you.....I know the grief! I lost one of mine (pictured) over 2 yrs.ago, but I find myself still crying on occasion...He was a short lived blessing...
Minnie in her green jumper is adorable! I have one that looks alot like her....My Ginger just turned 10.
Please know that you are a great mom to this creatures. How blessed they have been.....Nightmare is going to be very lonely without her....I'm sure he does enjoy the extra attention, though. ;)
I have a Nightmare Dog. I wish I would have been clever enough to name him that...Actually, he was already named when I got him. But had he not, that would have been perfect...His name is Oliver, but we refer to him as "The Spawn of Satan". I kid you not!
Keep me updated on yourself and Nightmare (And his Vet visit)....Blessings to you both...I'm truly sorry for your loss.......Sincerely, Karla
~~~Run Free Little Minnie~~~~You Were Much Loved~~~~One of The Lucky Ones~~~
Minnie in her green jumper is adorable! I have one that looks alot like her....My Ginger just turned 10.
Please know that you are a great mom to this creatures. How blessed they have been.....Nightmare is going to be very lonely without her....I'm sure he does enjoy the extra attention, though. ;)
I have a Nightmare Dog. I wish I would have been clever enough to name him that...Actually, he was already named when I got him. But had he not, that would have been perfect...His name is Oliver, but we refer to him as "The Spawn of Satan". I kid you not!
Keep me updated on yourself and Nightmare (And his Vet visit)....Blessings to you both...I'm truly sorry for your loss.......Sincerely, Karla
~~~Run Free Little Minnie~~~~You Were Much Loved~~~~One of The Lucky Ones~~~
Dear Karla,
Thanks for all your well wishes, unfortunately Minnie passed away on Monday 10/1, she was ill on Saturday and couldnt walk and was very wobbly, we took her to the specialist and they kept her overnight, , her specialist said that she was changing her antibiotics and she had an infection in the gastro intestinal and that she was bleeding from the tumour, she was giving her enemas every 2 hours to clean out her bowels and try to curb the infection, she said some dogs respond well, some dont, it was the only thing she could do if I wanted her to do it, so I said I did and we would wait 24 hours to see if any progress, as with liver cancer and her liver shunting there was nothing else to do.
Sunday I went and saw her with my daughter and she didnt respond at all, she didnt recognise us, so I knew in my heart she would not pull through.
Monday came and I rang the vet and she told me the tumour was bleeding and she vomited blood and she told me that it was time, there was nothing else, prolonging it now would only cause her to suffer, there were things she could try, however she would be miserable and prolong her misery, so I told the vet I didnt want to do that because I didnt want her to suffer, up till now she really was not in pain, it was all taken care of with the drugs, she would go for walks and play, only the feeding was becoming a problem hand feeding spoon feeding, she was starting to lose weight.
So Monday night came and the family went to the hospital, and as soon as she saw us, she started to get up and wanted to come home,.
All she wanted was cuddles from me, and and tobe held by me and the love of her family.
So everyone left apart from me and my daughter, and I held her so close to me, she was cryng and I was too, but I calmed her down, and she started to fall asleep in my arms, then the vet gave her the final sleep through the IV tube so she didnt have to have any needles, and she peacefully fell asleep in my arms.
I really miss my baby, I took her home and showed her to my other dog, he sniffed her and let out a bark as we buried her in the front garden under the maple tree.
He hasnt slept in her bed since then. He would always sleep in her bed.
I loved her so, but I know she is in a better place, and I have her pictures everywhere so I can remind myself of how she was.
IT is sad, I have lost other pets, I cannot remember the grief as it was a long time ago but I know I cried back then over 20 years ago.
Nightmare is missing her, although he loves the double attention now lol, he is old, 14 going on 15 healthy at the moment, going to vet monday for checkup.
But the grief we have is nothing compared to the joy they bring us for a lifetime of love and devotion, and I hope we meet again my sweet brave girl.
Thanks for listening.
Penny
Thanks for all your well wishes, unfortunately Minnie passed away on Monday 10/1, she was ill on Saturday and couldnt walk and was very wobbly, we took her to the specialist and they kept her overnight, , her specialist said that she was changing her antibiotics and she had an infection in the gastro intestinal and that she was bleeding from the tumour, she was giving her enemas every 2 hours to clean out her bowels and try to curb the infection, she said some dogs respond well, some dont, it was the only thing she could do if I wanted her to do it, so I said I did and we would wait 24 hours to see if any progress, as with liver cancer and her liver shunting there was nothing else to do.
Sunday I went and saw her with my daughter and she didnt respond at all, she didnt recognise us, so I knew in my heart she would not pull through.
Monday came and I rang the vet and she told me the tumour was bleeding and she vomited blood and she told me that it was time, there was nothing else, prolonging it now would only cause her to suffer, there were things she could try, however she would be miserable and prolong her misery, so I told the vet I didnt want to do that because I didnt want her to suffer, up till now she really was not in pain, it was all taken care of with the drugs, she would go for walks and play, only the feeding was becoming a problem hand feeding spoon feeding, she was starting to lose weight.
So Monday night came and the family went to the hospital, and as soon as she saw us, she started to get up and wanted to come home,.
All she wanted was cuddles from me, and and tobe held by me and the love of her family.
So everyone left apart from me and my daughter, and I held her so close to me, she was cryng and I was too, but I calmed her down, and she started to fall asleep in my arms, then the vet gave her the final sleep through the IV tube so she didnt have to have any needles, and she peacefully fell asleep in my arms.
I really miss my baby, I took her home and showed her to my other dog, he sniffed her and let out a bark as we buried her in the front garden under the maple tree.
He hasnt slept in her bed since then. He would always sleep in her bed.
I loved her so, but I know she is in a better place, and I have her pictures everywhere so I can remind myself of how she was.
IT is sad, I have lost other pets, I cannot remember the grief as it was a long time ago but I know I cried back then over 20 years ago.
Nightmare is missing her, although he loves the double attention now lol, he is old, 14 going on 15 healthy at the moment, going to vet monday for checkup.
But the grief we have is nothing compared to the joy they bring us for a lifetime of love and devotion, and I hope we meet again my sweet brave girl.
Thanks for listening.
Penny
Hi Penny, I'm sorry for what your going through!! I've lived through something similiar (Twice so far) and didn't think I would survive, either.....
I remember the crying; knowing the end is coming and I couldn't bare to let him go.....Actually, I still cry; as in now!
Just try to enjoy every day with her......Try not to cry in front of her because she will pick up on your sadness....You are a wonderful mother to these guys & you have gone above & beyond to provide the medical treatment that they both have needed.....Somehow, I think they both realize that!
This is all part of loving a creature and yes, it *****! But, when the time comes, you WILL be able to do what's best for her.....Trust me....You will even surprise yourself in the process. ;) Oh, it won't be easy, but you will adjust the thinking from your point of view over to Minnie's point of view......She will let you know....
Until then, I'm thinking about you all....Check back in when you can...I'm glad to hear from you.....I'll be praying for you both!
Happy 12th Birthday, Minnie..........Sincerely, Karla
I'm glad Nightmare is doing good...That helps you alittle....
I remember the crying; knowing the end is coming and I couldn't bare to let him go.....Actually, I still cry; as in now!
Just try to enjoy every day with her......Try not to cry in front of her because she will pick up on your sadness....You are a wonderful mother to these guys & you have gone above & beyond to provide the medical treatment that they both have needed.....Somehow, I think they both realize that!
This is all part of loving a creature and yes, it *****! But, when the time comes, you WILL be able to do what's best for her.....Trust me....You will even surprise yourself in the process. ;) Oh, it won't be easy, but you will adjust the thinking from your point of view over to Minnie's point of view......She will let you know....
Until then, I'm thinking about you all....Check back in when you can...I'm glad to hear from you.....I'll be praying for you both!
Happy 12th Birthday, Minnie..........Sincerely, Karla
I'm glad Nightmare is doing good...That helps you alittle....
Its been a while since I updated, so I'll have a go
Nightmare is fine and putting on weight, I will have to take him to the vet but right now am a mess with Minnie.
Took her to the oncologist for another ultrasound and unfortunately, the cancers have not grown, however now there are multiple new ones developed and unfortunately we cannot even do chemotherapy because it willl be futile.
So Minnie is now on palliative care, her liver is shunting, so she is on antibiotics and laxatives every day, and cortisone every second day for pain, however she dosnt seem to be in pain.
She has her days of being off food, and unfortunately she is losing weight due to the laxatives that she needs to take so that toxins don't build up in her bowels and cause secondary infections.
Most days, she will play with her ball around the house, but the oncologist did say she has about 1-3 months, (that was a month ago,), so since surgery, she has managed to stay alive for 4 months, I don't think she will make it to her 12th birthday in march, but lets hope so.
I cry every night, and I cry because I know that I will have to make the final decision when to put her to sleep and I dont know if I can.
Anyhow until then, lets hope she is pain free.
Penny
Nightmare is fine and putting on weight, I will have to take him to the vet but right now am a mess with Minnie.
Took her to the oncologist for another ultrasound and unfortunately, the cancers have not grown, however now there are multiple new ones developed and unfortunately we cannot even do chemotherapy because it willl be futile.
So Minnie is now on palliative care, her liver is shunting, so she is on antibiotics and laxatives every day, and cortisone every second day for pain, however she dosnt seem to be in pain.
She has her days of being off food, and unfortunately she is losing weight due to the laxatives that she needs to take so that toxins don't build up in her bowels and cause secondary infections.
Most days, she will play with her ball around the house, but the oncologist did say she has about 1-3 months, (that was a month ago,), so since surgery, she has managed to stay alive for 4 months, I don't think she will make it to her 12th birthday in march, but lets hope so.
I cry every night, and I cry because I know that I will have to make the final decision when to put her to sleep and I dont know if I can.
Anyhow until then, lets hope she is pain free.
Penny
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