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******* from HIV positive male

Hello all, thanks for the great work you are all doing here.

Yesterday I received a blowjob from a homosexual HIV + man. I came in his mouth.

I would like to know if i was at risk during this practice, and if yes what should i do.

Thank you all !
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Dr. Jose,

I am a heterosexual 19 yr. old male from US and have been reading up on some of your responses regarding insertive oral sex (BJ's). I have seen you state (regarding BJ's without any major twists or extenuating circumstance to their stories) the following....

" First of all, I would like to say that from your description of the events, you have not put yourself at any risk of HIV infection whatsoever"

and also state....

"First of all I would like to say that your encounter, as described, is a very low risk one in regards to HIV. (the person who gives a blow job and receives sperm after ejaculation would be at a slightly higher risk)"

Remember, these are responses to question about simple BJ’s without any rough stuff going on and the answers seem to contradict each other…I mean this respectfully, as I am just confused.

So here's my question as you already know what's coming next. What's the real story regarding BJ's? Is it a low risk or no risk incident for the male? Please be as "detailed" as possible with your response as I think many others may be confused also....respectfully I ask you to please prove your point to me....convince me please on your position here. Can you also explain where the soft tissue membranes are in the penis..are they at the tip of the opening on the penis gland(s) or deeper in the shaft? I'm just trying to better understanding where the point of infection is with a male during normal sex acts. If you couldprovide a link with a picture or diagram of where this ocurrs that would be great.

Sincerely,
Confused

Ps: I truly believe that God has placed people on this earth solely to help others…..I also believe you were created with this in mind…….May God bless you in return.
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Old 01-29-2010, 09:53 PM
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Hi there,
I am sorry if some of my replies have caused some confusion. In Medicine, like in many other fields, there are no 0% or 100%'s. I might have said in some posts 'no risk whatsoever' when I probably meant 'such a negligible risk, close to zero, essentially no risk'. Statistics are just statistics and when estimated risks for receptive oral sex (giving a bj) is 0% to 0.004%, but also after many years of experience in this field, I have never (this is a rotund NEVER=0%) seen or dealt or heard of a case of someone becoming infected this way. The estimated risk of receiving a bj is certainly 0%. I apologise if I have sometimes possibly given the impression of contradicting myself. It might be related to the workload that I had on that day, probably trying to answer a post late at night...However I hope that this clarifies this point. You can play the lottery every day, but the chances of winning the first price during your lifetime are not impossible, but they are pretty close to zero.
When you are talking of blow jobs, I assume you refer to heterosexual males. There are plenty of males out there who also enjoy performing them.
If you are usually a receiver of bj, as mentioned before you would not be at any risk at all of HIV infection. The main reason for this is because not only the saliva does not carry the virus, but it also destroys it. Even if the bj performer was positive with bleeding gums and mouth sores, the saliva would get rid of the virus. On top of that, the lining of the glans (head of penis) and opening of the urethra would have to be lacerated in order to gain access into the blood stream. By the way those are the areas where viral transmission happens. Circumcised men have a general lower risk of infection because this lining is tougher and less fragile, less likely to be damaged by intercourse; therefore transmission is less likely to occur.
The photo attached shows the glans, which has the urethral orifice at the top. HIV transmission can happen anywhere in this region.
I hope this helps and clears your doubts.
Best wishes,
Jose
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Doctor,

I only recieve oral sex....never have given it. I have been reading your posts for some time now and have always followed your advice. Protect myself regarding vaginal sex, don't give oral sex just foreplay, and have always thought that a BJ was absolutely safe. I have even considered some of your replies to married men, advising them that it was okay to resume intercourse with their wife after recieving a BJ from a CSW...without even needing a HIV test. Can't they infect their wives if their that one in a million? Maybe I'm just not totally understaning your reply....shouldn't these men have been advised to test as they received an unprotected BJ outside of ther marriage? Do I need to test as well??? Respectfully, and I truely mean respectfully, I ask that you keep your answer detaled but in simple terms so that I am crystal clear....I'm a little,,,,no a lot worried now.
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Perhaps I have not been very clear. I reiterate: no risk from receiving a blow job; practically zero risk from giving one. If the sexual encounter has been oral sex only (giving or receiving), we would not recommend patients having an HIV test.
I hope this is a bit clearer.
Best wishes,
Jose
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186166 tn?1385259382
duh  :)
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Thanks all for your support..

Elisa Negative,

Thus no transmission through blowjob, well done medhelp and thanks again !!
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ENOUGH IS ENOUGH...

YOU DIDNT CONTRACT HIV FROM WHAT YOU HAVE DESCRIBED AND WE DONT NEED "UPDATES" REGARDING YOUR NO RISK SITUATION.

ANY FURTHER POSTS SHOULD BE ADDRESSED ON THE HIV ANXIETY COMMUNTIY FORUM.

MOVE ON...
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Whats all these chutiya about lol,, im not in India man,

Im assured that blowjobs from HIV + people was never documented and does not carry any risk, but still, its anxiety bloody eating me out, been having this runny nose, sore throat since a few days now, its getting worse...


Plus its my first blowjob or experience from a guy :S kinda stressing me out, im trying to deal with it, and sorting myself out,....

Thanks all for your reassuring words. will keep on updating !
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I was told i could get pep for receiving a blow job also once thankfully teak and lizzie convinced me otherwise. I took it once for a broken condom and it would not have been worth it at all to do it for recieving a blow job when your def not going to contract the disease.
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Some chutiya doctor made you a full on chutiya, you never really needed to be on PEP. Stop doing your chutiyagiri right now and understand that HIV can't be transmitted through receiving a BJ. yes, there is not even a single documented case that says an individual is infected in that fashion. What makes you think that you will be infected from some thing that can't be even classified as an exposure, forget risk.

Where are you from and where does this chodu doctor sit?  Go to that bhosdiwala's clinic and give him a gandmaro session for making people chutiya and if you can't do it your self, give me the address, if he's in Mumbai, I will do the honors.
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I am surprisedyou are still here after all the reassurance you have received, you need to move on and let it go..

Thay have explained you are at no risk
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jesus christ it took me 2 minutes to scroll this.

TEST IN 3 MONTHS. THE END.

in the future remember that gay sexual interaction puts you at a higher risk.

ask flu questions in the flu forum.
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Hey All, small update.

Im coming down with flu symptoms, throat ache for several days, have these swollen nodes in the neck since a while and now can feel some nodes in the groin area... this thing is freaking me out, might be some stress too, i feel that tommorrow i will be very ill because of this throat pain.

Does anyone know if the flu cause groin nodes too to swell ?

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Hey all, Just would like to know how long should i wait to get tested, I know you stated NO RISK MOVE ON, but im am getting very anxious and would like to get tested. some places doctors are saying 28days, others say 6-8 weeks for a good indication and conclusive at 3months.

waiting for 3 months would be hell in my head, so how long do you advise. If someone could kindly help as you all did before.

Thank you again
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Thanks lizzie, I have been reading all over the place and the web about transmission and i get it.

aidsmap.com and namlife.com do not even state oral, performing oral as a risk for transmission. I also liked the san fransisco chart as the one in one of the post above.

I havent taken the combivir today and soon my apetite was back.

I hope all goes well, and thanks to all of you.

Ill get a routine test for STD and HIV in a few months.

Thanks again
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186166 tn?1385259382
enough is enough ! !

you have been assessed as not being at risk for contracting hiv.  there is nothing more this forum can offer...our answers will NOT change.

please read the above guidelines that teak just posted...paying close attention to the "questioning a conclusive result OR NO RISK SITUATION"

time to move along...
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You guys read about the swiss study stating very little transmission chance when a person has undetectable viral loads ?

No cases ever recorded when someone got infected by fellatio from a HIV+ person ?
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cheers for the answer, im just stopping these pills that make me sick.

with an undetectable viral load means that concentration of the virus is low right ?

Cheers, ill try not to worry !

thanks
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Doesn't matter; saliva is not infectious.
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I have just received a message from the guy, he states that he is on tritherapy and just received his test results that his viral loads is undetectable. that helps ?
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thanks, im getting rassured, i should stop these combivir pills that make me feel so ****, cant eat, stomach is upside down, feel tired and drained.

Taking combivir for a week or 2 will stop the virus if it entered ? or does it need to be 28 days ?
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Listen to me, I was in your situation and after consulting ALL hiv or medical website and talk with a very high number of doctors from all over the world, I understand that there is no risk from receiving oral sex and that all the symptoms became from our mind. You wanna know if it's true that nobody in the history has contract hiv from receiving a bj? I can't answer but all the doctors says so. I can just say that this kind of question (scared for HIV after oral sex) is the most popular in ALL the world HIV forum and all of these has finished with a negative test!
This is the std risk chart of the SANFRANCISCO CITY CLINIC: there is not hiv from the disease that is possible to contract after receive oral sex!   Hope I help you!
http://www.sfcityclinic.org/stdbasics/stdchart.asp

ps: I apologize for my english!
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The study was done in spain i honestly do not want to look it up or take the time. Just google hiv oral sex study spain and im sure it will come up. The study documented over 19,000 acts and found no seroconversions and thus led to the statistical data of zero.  

Here is a link to an article- http://en.allexperts.com/q/Immunology-including-AIDS-973/ORAL-SEX.htm
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anyone know about that ?
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Does anyone know what is this study done between magnetic couples that show that there was 0 transmission due to oral sex and if i could have a link please.

Thanks
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