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I went to gay massage shop. The male therapist rubbed his penis between my upper tights. He didn’t touch my penis, but I touched his penis (kind of helping him masterbate) with the possibility of contacting his precum on my hand and then I touched my penis and the gland. No oral sex and no anal penetration.

The doctor I met told me that this is low risk. I began PEP less than 4 hours after the exposure. I finished the dose for 28 days and got tested with 4th gen. on the completion of PEP (day 28) and again with 4th gen. and NAT on day 34 of exposure. The results were non-reactive. The doctor asked me to test again on day 84 (12 weeks).

My questions are the following:
1) Not sure if there was any HIV risk, as I my situation was like mutual masterbation and most people say mutual masterbation is not risky for HIV.
2) Are the results of the test at day 28 and 34 conclusive?
3) Can PEP delay the results of 4th gen and NAT, especially after one month of exposure? One doctor said to me that the result of NAT after 45 days of exposure can confirm the result 100%. Please help clarify?
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Are you sure that the doctor has experience in sexually transmitted diseases?
All you describe is no risk even.
There was no need to get pep or to test .
It is a science
Forgot it .
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Your situation involves personal contact with an object in air  (touching, maybe fluids outside body with penis,  etc. ). You will be happy to learn that you had no risk, because you can't get hiv from personal contact except unprotected penetrating vaginal or anal with a penis, neither of which you did and you didn't share hollow needles to inject with which is the only other way to acquire hiv - there are ONLY 3 ways to get hiv. Note that 2 of them require a penis and the third requires a hollow injecting shared needle - there are no OTHER ways to get hiv. Analysis of large numbers of infected people over the 40 years of hiv history has proven that people don't get hiv in the way you are worried is a risk.
Hiv is a fragile virus in air or saliva and is effectively instantly dead in either air or saliva so the WORST that could happen is dead virus rubbed you, and obviously anything which is dead cannot live again so you are good. Blood and cuts would not be relevant in your situation since the hiv has become effectively dead, so you don't have to worry about them to be sure that you are safe.
There is no reason for a person to test when they are safe. The advice took into consideration that the other person might be positive, so move on and enjoy life instead of thinking about this non-event. hiv prevention is straightforward since there are only 3 ways you can become infected, so next time you wonder if you had a risk, ask yourself this QUESTION. "Did I do any of the 3?" Then after you say "No, I didn't" you will know that it's time to move on back to your happy life.
No one got hiv from what you did during 40 years of hiv history and no one will get it in the next 40 years of your life either.  You can do what you did any time and be safe from hiv.
The other person's status is irrelevant when you have no exposure to live virus.
I have no idea why a doc would give you PEP for a no risk event. Do you live in the US? Even live hiv can't bore into your skin but you were dealing with dead hiv. Your tests were purposeless.
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