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Chapped Lips kiss
Hi,
I met a CSW in Singapore. Was sitting with her and she took a small gulp of drink from my bottle and put into my mouth through a lip-lip kiss.
I was a bit scared about the drink having blood and stuff but then I read a few posts with similar situation and the doctors and experts like Teak have said that it is a NO RISK situation.
The only threat I believe here is what if she had chapped lips with a small amount of invisible blood on it? Because then if I had small cuts on my lips then it provides a pathway, doesn't it?
I don't know how logical/ scientific and rational do I sound here but it would be great if people like Teak could answer my question.
Should I worry about this incident?
Thanks
I met a CSW in Singapore. Was sitting with her and she took a small gulp of drink from my bottle and put into my mouth through a lip-lip kiss.
I was a bit scared about the drink having blood and stuff but then I read a few posts with similar situation and the doctors and experts like Teak have said that it is a NO RISK situation.
The only threat I believe here is what if she had chapped lips with a small amount of invisible blood on it? Because then if I had small cuts on my lips then it provides a pathway, doesn't it?
I don't know how logical/ scientific and rational do I sound here but it would be great if people like Teak could answer my question.
Should I worry about this incident?
Thanks
I know that posing this question again is gonna put me at the risk of a ban but trust me, i am asking this for one last time. I still haven't been able to put the ghost behind. I don't know what am I worrying about. I am probably a bit too scared. Is there any conceivable scenario in the exposure that I mentioned above that could possibly put me at any risk?
I know that all, Teak, Lizzie and nursegirl have been very confident that this is indeed a NO RISK but one last time...
Thanks :)
I know that all, Teak, Lizzie and nursegirl have been very confident that this is indeed a NO RISK but one last time...
Thanks :)
Your anxiety is playing with you...read what people have said....you had NO risk, zero, nada, nothing. Therefore, testing would be an absolute waste of time and money.
Move on and educate yourself on how the disease is transmitted.
NOT via kissing, cut or no cut.
Move on and educate yourself on how the disease is transmitted.
NOT via kissing, cut or no cut.
btw, so no need of testing right? and in case I do go for testing then it should be 100% negative if this is the only exposure I have had since the day I was born (irrespective of the factors like her being a csw, oral hygien, lips etc etc) ?
Thanks a lot. :)
No point breaking my head over this. Guess have to stop all such activities in future. :)
No point breaking my head over this. Guess have to stop all such activities in future. :)
by Edward W Hook, M.D.
, Jun 22, 2008 09:49PM
You are not at risk and do not need to be tested. Kissing, even deep, tongue to tongue kissing are NO RISK exposures. The data which support this are derrived from very large numbers of persons some of whom have gum disease, dental problems or other means by which blood and saliva can be exchanged in the process of kissing. No one has ever gotten HIV this way. You have nothing to worry about.
EWH
, Jun 22, 2008 09:49PM
You are not at risk and do not need to be tested. Kissing, even deep, tongue to tongue kissing are NO RISK exposures. The data which support this are derrived from very large numbers of persons some of whom have gum disease, dental problems or other means by which blood and saliva can be exchanged in the process of kissing. No one has ever gotten HIV this way. You have nothing to worry about.
EWH
the amount of blood that you need to have from her bleeding lips to contract hiv would make you choke and die at the sametime.
anyways, damn irritating this is to sit and analyse it so thoroughly!
plus i don't know anything anyways and half knowledge is riskier than no knowledge.
all i want to know is, given all those weird ifs and buts and assuarance that i didn't see any blood so if it all it was there on her lips or in her mouth it would be in minute quantities and then i don't know any cut that i have but if at all i had one it would be very minute too, there a chance of transmission with many ifs being true?
plus i don't know anything anyways and half knowledge is riskier than no knowledge.
all i want to know is, given all those weird ifs and buts and assuarance that i didn't see any blood so if it all it was there on her lips or in her mouth it would be in minute quantities and then i don't know any cut that i have but if at all i had one it would be very minute too, there a chance of transmission with many ifs being true?
BELIEVE ME...you would NOT be kissing anyone with the kind of "CUT WIDE OPEN, BLEEDING PROFUSELY, GASH that it would take from BOTH parties to become infected with hiv!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
search the expert forum for answers on this one if you are still in doubt... and then move on...you were not at risk!
search the expert forum for answers on this one if you are still in doubt... and then move on...you were not at risk!
Thanks Teak.
While people here say that kiss is a surely no risk why is it that numerous websites talk about oral hygiene and stuff being some of the factors?
Why is it that even small cuts on lips etc will also bear no effect on the risk assesment?
While people here say that kiss is a surely no risk why is it that numerous websites talk about oral hygiene and stuff being some of the factors?
Why is it that even small cuts on lips etc will also bear no effect on the risk assesment?
hmm, I guess so.
Teak can you please confirm that aak001 is correct and I should move on?
Teak can you please confirm that aak001 is correct and I should move on?
the mouth is a very hostile environment for the virus to survive in. you ingaged in a zero risk behavior in term of geting hiv. go see the arcives in the expert forum and you will find hundreds of similar questions answered by the doctors.
As in there wasn't any visible blood on lips but who knows if it was in minute quantity.
I just wanted to know from Teak if the lips with blood could be a potential risk or not.
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