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HIV and K-Y liquid
If the contents of a bottle of k-y liquid are tainted with blood or semen containing the hiv virus, can the virus survive in that liquid environment, and thus be transmitted if applied to one's genitalia?
But wouldn't the virus be able to survive in that liquid environment? Thanks for your replies.
Okay, now were beating a dead horse my friend, this is counterproductive. I've claimed my error, and it was an honest mistake as you know the company made the false claim, it did not originate with me, i'm not a representative of Johnson & Johnson/Trojan or Armkel LLC. They were forced by the FDA to stop making the claim to consumers that there product contained non-oxynol 9 which they said offered additional protection to it's user's against sdt's & hiv/aids infection(s). A claim they had been making for what, some 15-20 years now. As i've said i stand corrected-let's move one. This is not worth all the effort-it could have been pointed out with a dose of humility minus all the rest of what took place here. Can we move on now-i think the points been clarified enough here to where we are all now in the know.
Just setting the facts straight with you Chapeau. You said,
To: S Y N C S L K
KY contains non-oxynol 9 which actual kill the hiv virus, this does not mean that it can be used by itself as protection though. The other part of your question is ocd man, but no hiv probably can not survive in a bottle of KY-and if it could the bottle would probably have to contain more blood than KY man-and this is foolish. Hiv does not live outside of the human body for any more than either less than a second of seconds-something like that.
That post was not true and what I did was point out to you that what you posted was incorrect. KY does NOT contain N9 and N9 does not kill the HIV virus. That was all.
To: S Y N C S L K
KY contains non-oxynol 9 which actual kill the hiv virus, this does not mean that it can be used by itself as protection though. The other part of your question is ocd man, but no hiv probably can not survive in a bottle of KY-and if it could the bottle would probably have to contain more blood than KY man-and this is foolish. Hiv does not live outside of the human body for any more than either less than a second of seconds-something like that.
That post was not true and what I did was point out to you that what you posted was incorrect. KY does NOT contain N9 and N9 does not kill the HIV virus. That was all.
Look-a minor point and a reasonable error has once again descended into a witch hunt for forum bickering. This forum is comprised of non-medical members who weight i on a post, from time to time there will be error posted, i've seen EVERYONE do this at one point or another some as recent as a weekend ago. When this occurs the error can be pointed out in a civil and tactful way, without all ridicule and hostilities-please, once again, as regulars here on the forum, let's make an effort to set an proper tone. This bickering hi-jacks the threads/does not help the concerned poster & makes us ALL look foolish. Please refrain from engaging in confrontations for the sake of argue.
sincerely,
C H A P E A U
sincerely,
C H A P E A U
I gave you the first sentence of the news release and I gave you the URL. I can't do all the work for you Chapeau. You have to take some initiative yourself and look these things up if you are going to give out information in an HIV forum. Just give the FACTS.
it's all good...
this is what happens alot when ppl "google" things. they dont look at the dates or sources...which we all know there is outdated information AND incorrect information on the internet.
this is what happens alot when ppl "google" things. they dont look at the dates or sources...which we all know there is outdated information AND incorrect information on the internet.
Hi there,
Maybe what you can do to clarify the misunderstanding is to provide us with the specific link you have read about it.
Asking us to google it ourself may not be good. As you know, there are many many good informations and also misleading information on the internet.
Maybe what you can do to clarify the misunderstanding is to provide us with the specific link you have read about it.
Asking us to google it ourself may not be good. As you know, there are many many good informations and also misleading information on the internet.
Teak,
You stated the "FDA issued a final ruling today" if the quote was not current to the day and contains the word today then you should have dated it as quoted in December. It's still a recent development none the less and I'm not guilty of providing false information as you've stated-the information was valid until a recent development of false claims made by the manufacturer was recently discovered by the FDA and brought to light to the general public. You could probably stump a lot of doctors with this even today, because KY has been making these claims for over a decade -or- decades, however long...let's not blow things out of proportion here. We can chalk this one up to a reasonable error and not an opportunity to attack me, and make false claims and accusations, please, again-keep things civil and professional while posting in the threads. If you have anything further to say address it to MedHelp -or- in a pm.
thank-you
C H A P E A U
You stated the "FDA issued a final ruling today" if the quote was not current to the day and contains the word today then you should have dated it as quoted in December. It's still a recent development none the less and I'm not guilty of providing false information as you've stated-the information was valid until a recent development of false claims made by the manufacturer was recently discovered by the FDA and brought to light to the general public. You could probably stump a lot of doctors with this even today, because KY has been making these claims for over a decade -or- decades, however long...let's not blow things out of proportion here. We can chalk this one up to a reasonable error and not an opportunity to attack me, and make false claims and accusations, please, again-keep things civil and professional while posting in the threads. If you have anything further to say address it to MedHelp -or- in a pm.
thank-you
C H A P E A U
What do you mean it just changed today. That news release was in December. It didn't just change today as you like to put it.
Well it was the FDA's fault for misleading people not mine, and if it just changed today as you've said, you can cut me some slack on the hostilities right guy's. It's was never my claim, it was the manufacture's claim. There are files on the internet that say non-oxynol 9 is an ingredient in some if not most of the KY line of products.
Well then you can make an allowance then if it happened changed today, i have not read my newspaper yet.
The FDA proves your fist false claim and your second false claim is that KY contains nonoxynol 9 which it does not.
Ingredients:Chlorhexidine Gluconate, Glucono Delta Lactone, Glycerin, Hydroxyethylcellulose, Methylparaben, Purified Water, Sodium Hydroxide
Std's today/medical journal today, ect,ect...ect...
There are many examples of this on Google...
KY-does contain non-oxynol 9, i did'nt just make this up, please verify it if you have any further doubts, and let's keep it civil as well please-thank-you.
There are many examples of this on Google...
KY-does contain non-oxynol 9, i did'nt just make this up, please verify it if you have any further doubts, and let's keep it civil as well please-thank-you.
Look here Chapeau get you facts straight.
http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/NEWS/2007/NEW01758.html
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued a final rule today that requires that manufacturers of over-the-counter (OTC) stand-alone vaginal contraceptive and spermicidal products containing the chemical ingredient nonoxynol 9 (N9) include a warning that the chemical N9 does not provide protection against infection from HIV (the virus that causes AIDS) or other sexually transmitted diseases (STDs)
Now go play with you google Chapeau. KY from Johnson and Johnson does NOT use nonoxynol 9 in any of their products. You've been reported to giving out false information. AGAIN.
http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/NEWS/2007/NEW01758.html
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued a final rule today that requires that manufacturers of over-the-counter (OTC) stand-alone vaginal contraceptive and spermicidal products containing the chemical ingredient nonoxynol 9 (N9) include a warning that the chemical N9 does not provide protection against infection from HIV (the virus that causes AIDS) or other sexually transmitted diseases (STDs)
Now go play with you google Chapeau. KY from Johnson and Johnson does NOT use nonoxynol 9 in any of their products. You've been reported to giving out false information. AGAIN.
KY products are water base silicone based lubes. They DO NOT contain non-oxynol 9 in any of their products. Move on chapeau.
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