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MSM oral sex and CONFUSSION

1. I wanna say this forum claim Oral sex is safe sex.However, 99% doctors in United States and 99% Experts in United States say they have seen convinsing cases and well-documented cases through HIV.
2. They say  I will get infected by Oral sex because I swallow seman and contain them in my mouth
   HIV virus will get into my body through a small membranes cut .
   and the risk is  1:2500 or 1:10000 or 100people/per year

Because I am sick ,  have extremely simular ARS symptom( Fever ranging from 37.5-38 for 2-3weeks)
,and say other experts say risk is high not low and extremely low!

Could anyone help me? idk what to do!!
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Oral sex does not transmit HIV.

No incident HIV infections among MSM who practice exclusively oral sex.
Int Conf AIDS 2004 Jul 11-16; 15:(abstract no. WePpC2072)??Balls JE, Evans JL, Dilley J, Osmond D, Shiboski S, Shiboski C, Klausner J, McFarland W, Greenspan D, Page-Shafer K?University of California, San Francisco, San Francisco, United States

Oral transmission of HIV, reality or fiction? An update
J Campo1, MA Perea1, J del Romero2, J Cano1, V Hernando2, A Bascones1
Oral Diseases (2006) 12, 219–228

AIDS: Volume 16(17) 22 November 2002 pp 2350-2352
Risk of HIV infection attributable to oral sex among men who have sex with men and in the population of men who have sex with men

Page-Shafer, Kimberlya,b; Shiboski, Caroline Hb; Osmond, Dennis Hc; Dilley, Jamesd; McFarland, Willie; Shiboski, Steve Cc; Klausner, Jeffrey De; Balls, Joycea; Greenspan, Deborahb; Greenspan
Page-Shafer K, Veugelers PJ, Moss AR, Strathdee S, Kaldor JM, van Griensven GJ. Sexual risk behavior and risk factors for HIV-1 seroconversion in homosexual men participating in the Tricontinental Seroconverter Study, 1982-1994 [published erratum appears in Am J Epidemiol 1997 15 Dec; 146(12):1076]. Am J Epidemiol 1997, 146:531-542.

Studies which show the fallacy of relying on anecdotal evidence as opposed to carefully controlled study insofar as HIV transmission risk is concerned:

Jenicek M. "Clinical Case Reporting" in Evidence-Based Medicine. Oxford: Butterworth–Heinemann; 1999:117
Saltzman SP, Stoddard AM, McCusker J, Moon MW, Mayer KH. Reliability of self-reported sexual behavior risk factors for HIV infection in homosexual men. Public Health Rep. 1987 102(6):692–697.Nov–Dec;

Catania JA, Gibson DR, Chitwood DD, Coates TJ. Methodological problems in AIDS behavioral research: influences on measurement error and participation bias in studies of sexual behavior. Psychol Bull. 1990 Nov;108(3):339–362.

There is no debate (among experts) about the HIV risks associated with oral sex. The risk is so low that almost nobody who cares for HIV infected patients has ever had a patient believed to have been infected that way. Among experts, it's a semantic issue about using terms like "no risk" and "very low risk". There is no difference between my or Dr. Hook's use of "low risk" and other experts' "no risk".
DR. HANSFIELD

"And oral sex is basically safe sex -- completely safe with respect to HIV and although not zero risk for other STDs, the chance of infection is far lower than for unprotected vaginal or anal sex. Please educate yourself about the real risks. If you stick with oral sex and condom-protected vaginal or anal sex, you have no HIV worries and very little worry about other STDs. " DR HANSFIELD

"I am sure you can find lots of people who belive that HIV is transmitted by oral sex, but you will not find scientific data to support this unrealistic concern..." DR HOOK

"HIV is not spread by touching, masturbation, oral sex or condom protected sex."- DR. HOOK

in the public HIV Prevention forum of MedHelp, TEAK and the other moderators maintain that oral sex in all forms is a zero risk activity. Would you agree with this assessment?
I TOTALLY AGREE / DR GARCIA

"The observation on thousands and thousands of observations is that HIV is not spread by oral sex (of any sort)." DR HOOK
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I prove what u say is True!!!!!!!
I use rapid -test then get a Negative Results after this **** exposure!!!!!!!!!!
Thx. Ur words are worthy and save people's life!!!!!!!
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No you don't need testing you never had a risk.
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Cuz I fear death!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If I dare to test, why I aske here .
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God save me from death,

If you are so concerned then why  not simply get checked out ?
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i thought pre-cum is higher risky!!In my opinion....
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So what means above is that oral sex does transmit HIV. any large difference between ejaculation or not? Does pre-cum also transmit HIV?
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I am a ardent of your viewpoint!!!!
But just some minuites ago, I see a presitigious Doctor in this forum from UK( forget name = = ) , who state the risk of oral sex is  1:2500 and 100people per year infected via oral sex ................. So contradicted Informtion and response.
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Yes!I am Chinese American.
Now I am in China.
I got baptized in HK.......
SO I AM WORRIED SO MUCH!!!
  THIS CHINESE CASE IS FOUND ON WEBSITE =O=。But a litle bit authentic.
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There existed many dumented cases :
http://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJM198901263200414

1993 Study:
http://journals.lww.com/aidsonline/Abstract/1993/01000/Non_ulcerative_sexually_transmitted_diseases_as.15.aspx

msm study:
http://journals.lww.com/aidsonline/Citation/2002/11220/Risk_of_HIV_infection_attributable_to_oral_sex.22.aspx

UK Study:
http://journals.lww.com/aidsonline/Abstract/1999/04160/Oral_sex_and_HIV_transmission.21.aspx

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What ? It's in Chinese for god sake, is this your confirmed single confirmed case of HIV being transmitted via oral sex ?

Are you for real " God save me from death" ?
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http://www.cqvip.com/onlineread/onlineread.asp?ID=28511438&SUID=EGBNBFDHDNCBCOPIBOLGEMCBCDOIPNFP


SOOOOO AUTHENTIC DOCUMENT!
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Wait several minutes. Do u have translator for ENGLISH-CHINESE?
THere is a study of Chinese CDC!
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I have read the sites before" God save me from death", you ave been asked to provide a single case of HIV being transmitted via oral sex, why are you waiting ?

There is nothing in your links that provide a single case study. Stop copying and pasting, offer up your case study.

When as HIV ever been transmitted via oral sex ?
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http://aids.about.com/cs/safesex/a/oralsex.htm
http://hivinsite.ucsf.edu/insite?page=pr-rr-05
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You call yourself "God save me from death", you copy and paste the most extreme bizarre nonsense that can be found on the net about HIV and seriously expect to be taken seriously?

Get help pal, seriously.

Goodbye.
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well.SOO  CONFUSED!!!!
I believe TEAK / LIZZI L/ Nurse.xxx
  
I hope oral sex is 0!!
But i always dreaming of positive results!!!
  and I always have symptom!!! perfect symptom!!
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I visit many HIV forums and sites and see all the time what you have posted, I have yet to see a single person offer up a single confirmed case of HIV being transmitted via oral sex. Since you have taken the time and searched the net exhaustively , maybe you can offer up here a case study that confirms HIV can be transmitted via oral sex.

Just one will do.

Please, you help me out here.
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