nuru massage- HIV exposure??

[paulthomas266]

Hello Doctor. I went to a nuru massage- naked body to body massage. This involved the masseuse rubbing parts of my rectum with hand lotion and using a lubricant to rub my penis.
No genital, oral contact nor vaginal intercourse. The thing is that she sat on top of my back…
I did not otherwise come into contact with any vaginal secretions (other than when she was sitting on my back and moving back and forth rubbing her breasts in my back and possibly her vagina in my butt while she was moving. But I noticed she was wearing panties Supposing she was HIV+ could her fluids be in contact with my bloodstream??? Could she pass me the virus just like in receptive anal intercourse? what are my chances? she was wearing panties and I was lying on bed with my butt facing up, I am afraid she rubbed her ***** on my butt and there was vaginal discharge, even though she was wearing panties!!! What are my odds? I am sure I had no wounds nor broken skin or external piles. But if I had any of these I would be in risk of exposure to HIV right?

[paulthomas266]

Dear Joggen,

Thank you so much for your answer. I know that recently I have been suffering from HIV stress/anxiety/paranoia, I have been already told this by a professional on this issue.

I am afraid I might had an anal fissure and considering what my friend told me, I am afraid a drop of her blood(supposing she was bleeding a bit) could have entered my bloodstream through an anal fissure. I asked a renowned M.D. on this issue in UK and he told me that if it was vaginal fluids they would become not HIV infectious right away after being outside the masseuse´s vagina. Hpwever, I did not ask about blood? Are you telling me that blood contaminated by HIV also is not infectious outside the body?? Does not the HIV carrier´s viral load also play a role on this matter?

I am so sorry, I am very confused now... So what if an HIV positive guy get into a fight with a HIV negative person and if the HIV positive starts actively bleeding and if the other guy has an open wound and if some blood of the HIV positive guy gets into the other persons´s bloodstream through the mentioned wound? In order for a HIV transmission to occur, Does not it depend on the size of the open wound/ on the amount of blood that gets inside the wound/ on the viral load of the HIV positive guy?

I am quite sure she was not actively bleeding, I am just afraid that maybe a drop of blood entered an anal fissure. I brought the aforementioned example of a fight as I have been told that it can definitely lead to an HIV transmission!

I am very confused now...
Thank you for all your help.

[joggen]

You would not have been at risk even if she was actively bleeding and you were covered in blood, and blood got in your anus. HIV is not infectious outside the body as you were already told. When we give you advice it's up to you to be able to use reasoning to apply it rather than let friends that are not educated in HIV set your anxiety off with incorrect information.

[paulthomas266]

Dear Joggen. I was asking for the assessment of a possibility which I had not considered yet!!!! Can you consider the risk of this possibility?

[joggen]

Please direct any further questions on this situation to a mental help professional. Your question was thoroughly answered and this forum cannot help further.

[paulthomas266]

Hello Teak. I am so sorry for questioning again in what you consider to be a no-risk situation to HIV. I only have two doubts. One is that on the 17th of December(about10 weeks )after I had the body to body(nuru) massage(2nd of October 2012) I had a cold or a flu and had some fever for 2 days, with maximum temperature of 37.4 degrees celsius- 99.3 fahrenheit. Can ARS symptoms occur after 10 weeks after possible exposures? How likely is it to happen?

I asked a friend of mine about this "possible"(possible for me, I know you guys say this was a non-existent exposure) and I got worried because he told me that if she had only vaginal fluids I would never be at risk but if she had some blood mixed on her vaginal fluids and if these fluids came into contact with the anus or an anal fissure or mucous membranes, then I could have been at risk. He also told me that if she was bleeding from her vagina(if she was on menstruation) it could go through her panties and put me at risk. My encounter was at 18pm and I did not notice any red stains on her panties. I don´t think she could have been bleeding profusely but please suppose she  was bleeding just a little bit from her vagina. Would I be at risk?

Teak and other expert users on this issue, Can you please please give me your valuable opinion on this issue?

[Teak]

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