Chelation therpy or pills

[zippybob]

You can by the chelation pills and I was wondering if they would help your arteries
say clean after bypass  instead of taking meds?

[ed34]

As of tomorrow I will be trying a totally veggie/fruit diet. I won't be eating ANY meat or dairy. I have read so many reports claiming that the body will reabsorb fat if levels in the blood are low enough. So being on the highest allowed dosage of statin to control my hypercholesterolemia, I will see just how it goes. I will keep you informed, but I will miss my turkey this xmas. That means my diet will be very strict, sugar free drinks and no chocolate, no meat or fish, no dairy. Just lots of fruit, veg and grains.Not sure how long it should take to see any improvements, but I will give it a shot for 6 months and then have some tests.

[Ibaraki]

Hi GeeZee1314, Pls. keep us/me updated.  I am also planning to go thru the C-therapy at some stage/if and when I feel it will help.. Thanx in advance.

[Flycaster305]

My brother in law decided to give up his drugs in favor of Chelation therapy, he was convinced it was a more natural approach to heart health.  We miss him, at least he checked out very quickly after making the choice.  

[erijon]

Here is the summary of the TACT trial;

The authors conclude that although chelation therapy modestly reduced the risk of a composite of adverse cardiovascular outcomes, the results “are not sufficient to support the routine use of chelation therapy for treatment of patients who have had an MI.”

The link;

http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1672221

It's still considered an alternative treatment and has only showed a minimal reduction in cardiac events. In addition, many insurance companies will not cover the cost for use pertaining to CVD.

Good luck with it.

[ed34]

Please let me know how it goes, I will be waiting in great anticipation :) and I hope it gives the results you are looking for. So, what will they be matching exactly to see how good the results are? how you feel? Ct scan? Angiogram?

[GeeZee1314]

My M.D. is Yale premed, Stanford med and look terrific at 65.  He offers chelation, does it himself and I am going to do the 20 sessions.  I am 61, not overweight, no history of high cholesterol and no history of high blood pressure and had an MI 3 months ago and now have an LAD stent.  I will let you know how I like it.  It will be one person's experience and by no means a study.  I figure the 3 hours on the IV will let me catch up on my Netflix movies since the chelation room has wifi.  

[ed34]

As the report says, no conclusions can really be drawn from this study. It is too small and it seems to suggest there could be something going on. However, saying that, it's based on cardiac events in a given number of years after treatment/placebo. This is just a ridiculous study. Why not simply cut to the chase and do it properly, and it would only take a few patients. Give an angiogram before chelation, and then one after and see how much the blockages have improved? All this nonsense about who does and doesn't get a cardiac event in so many years is really meaningless. There are too many other factors involved, exercise, diet, smoking, alcohol, stress etc etc. You can't rely on a patient filling out a form, of course they will not admit high alcohol or smoking or bad diet etc. Visual evidence is far better. If an angiogram is too risky, perform a calcium score scan. See how much it drops after chelation.

[GeeZee1314]

What is the source of your information?  The following summary published by the American Heart Assoc seems to disagree.

http://my.americanheart.org/idc/groups/ahamah-public/@wcm/@sop/@scon/documents/downloadable/ucm_446204.pdf

[ed34]

As I've said many times on here before, chelation was invented to remove heavy metals from the body, such as when a patient has lead poisoning. If you imagine an artery with fat stored in its wall, and fat is not a heavy metal, they are usually protected from inside the artery by a calcium cap. This stops the fat erupting into the artery, causing a blockage and possible death. Chelation has nothing to do with fats and never will. Nobody has ever answered this question for me, but "why would you ever want to remove those calcium safety caps so you can die from clots?".

[erijon]

A recent 10 year study has just been released and it shows no benefit from chelation therapy. In fact, it has been shown that chelation therapy is dangerous as it usually keeps patients that need conventional treatment delay other options.