Just to add to the above, while my opinion is as stated re geno 1's-- I've always made it clear that it's an individual choice with pro's and con's for both positions.
No. I'm not pro treatment or anti-treatment. Now or before. My personal opinion is that geno 1's with little or no liver damage should watch and wait. And that geno 1's with significant liver damage (like I was told I had) should treat agressively. My view on this has never changed since I began posting here almost two years ago and please show me where I've ever said differently -- as opposed to pulling words out of context as you did above. As to Telaprevir, I think it's the best hope right now for geno 1's who want to treat now. I base that on trial results that suggest double the response rate with half the exposure to interefron. Own stock?
No, but sometimes I wish I bought in about a year ago. Then again, I don't have a very good track record with the market, so probably best sitting on the sidelines. If I ever do take a position in the stock, I would post it for ethical reasons.
And I never said Copy was "wrong" in opening the thread but did express concerns and I'll let my own words stand for themselves.
Really don't understand the tone of your post, thought we had a civil relationship here.
Be well,
-- Jim
"Like Andriamo, I hope this thread does not scare people away from the drug based on what someone said to someone to someone."
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Sounds like you are now "pro tx",,wow thats a switch. What about when you talk about the "horrors of Soc" and tell people how you waited until the last moment to tx cause the drugs can cause all sorts of sx during and post tx and then you post the threads of other members and their complaints. I wonder where all these people that are so worried about how this thread might influence someone as far as tx - where are they when you do the above? I'm not mad at you Jim nor anyone one else - but I'm wondering if everyone bought stock at this point to tell you the truth.
The reaction to this thread is exactly the reason I never made a "thread" when this issue was first brought to my attention, but I DO NOT think that Copyman was wrong in opening the thread - all he wanted to do was to pass on what he "heard." AND I chimed in and so did PSP. People can do with that what they want. If heart issue is going to be addressed at the conference as told to Copyman, I would think there may be a reason,,,,why would they be discussing an "UNCOMMON sx" that they are ALREADY aware of unless the "un" is not as "un" as they thought. Like I said before, this may be the drug I need to use too, so I am hoping this drug proves to be as safe and effective as we would hope it to be for the sake of those in the trials and the people who will use the drug in the future.
But as I always say getting 'approved by the FDA" means 'goody-goody," for the drug company, but not always for the patient. Drug coated stents........
They have to chronical all events which occur in the trials to the participants. For instance if someone decided to commit suicide or lost the ability to see color these would not be proof that they were caused by the treatment. The fact that any event is reported is a a far cry from a connection made to the trial.
As mentioned anemia itself from SOC could certainly contribute to a heart attack. Lets also remember that those folks in the trials for far have been denied the use of "rescue drugs" which could reduce the anemia and thereby reduce the likelihood of a heart attack.
Jim....... that was an honest (in italics) mistake; don't feel bad. : ) IF one can cut the current treatment time by half we may remove the most insideous part of treatment; the back 24 weeks of a 48 week treatment. This may be a period where most people suffer the worst and debilitating effects of the current SOC.
Telaprevir may have it's dangers but it may also actually lessen the dangers of the current treatment. How does one compute the dangers for the folks who must retreat over and over or those for folks who do 72 weeks of current SOC?
If you listen to the webcasts or read the articles it is still not out of the realm of possibility that some groups may be able to treat for a shorter time than the "12&12". We may yet see another attempt at a shorter treatment arm in Phase 3 or after (and if) TVR is approved.
best,
Willy
Interesting post, I have actually been waiting for a post like this (G) I find this subect very interesting for obvious reason, who knows, if I don't svr tx-ing with my current protocol, well I've pretty much exhausted soc variants, short of doubling the peg and going longer than 72 weeks. I guess I just like to keep things in perspective and play devils advocate, that doesn't mean I'm not an optimist (G)..
What is interesting as well with your post is the fact that you were able to gather all this information, which has probably even been updated over the years of use...
* you can't say that with a study drug
Right on as you usually are!