anybody have cirrhosis on biopsy with the rest of the tests totally normal?

[niceguy2007]

after reading about the palmar erythema occuring at stage 2 posted by one member here,

i was wondering if anyone on the forum has ever been diagnosed with cirrhosis on a biopsy, with:

- normal platelets
- normal spleen size on ultrasound
- no fatty liver / or some fatter liver on ultrasound
- totally normal abdomen and organs on ultrasound

??

[aiuta]

Thanks for your post.  I can relate to the anxiety you are feeling.  I was taking bipolar & OCD meds for 8 years before tx.  When I started hep c tx, my anxiety levels soared and the psychiatrist added clonapin, at a small dose (.5).  It's helped me considerably.  My experience is that Interferon augments many latent (or evident) pre-existing conditions/tendencies we may have.  I'm not a Dr., but I have had bipolar/OCD for years, and I can recognize some obsession and anxiety traits in your posts.  I hope you won't be offended by this.  That's not my point in posting.  I just wouldn't want you to live with the hell of the anxiety/obsessive compulsive thinking I know all too well.  It's VERY painful, not to mention taxing (on myself and others).  And I didn't even know how painful and taxing it was UNTIL I started taking meds to treat it.  Whatever you decide, I pray for relief for you from the anxiety.  You deserve it.  God bless and all MY best, Aiuta

[scubadiver30]

Hello guys
Have to tell you about my visit to the doc today for my 4 wk PCR.
Still no VL results from 2 weeks ago. L What a bummer.
She said I look OK and it seemed that I could handle TX okey.. I have to call tomorrow for the blood panel to see if I

[sfbaygirl]

I have been UND, but because the tests were not that sensitive I am getting a new one that goes <5.

My BX from 2000, my fibroscan in Nov. both looked like stage 1 possibly overlapping with stage 2, (as they all overlap). I really don't have the answers to what looked fishy, except the US and fatty liver v. cirrhosis in Sept. F has a lot more of my medical history than I do. One hospital wanted 25 cents a page (yrs of records) and I pick them up, or fax them free to F. I chose to send them to F. (you know how cheap I can be! LOL)

I have a referral to another hep dr. that my ins. WILL pay for. Part of my plan to see if I can get the dr. I want. If I don't like this local dr. I will complain and try and get my way. John knows the attny for the INS. group and will have lunch with him, this also may help.

[jmjm530]

I  thought "G" intially was playing around with 12 (or 16) weeks in your case based on your 4-week PCR, but maybe I have it mixed up with someone else.

In any event, I was referencing your doctor's eventual decision to treat you for 26 weeks for Scuba and Niceguy's sake.

SF,

Well, I'm pretty confused with all your variables and inconsistent readings both with the labs and liver damage. Didn't your biopsy/fibrosure/fibroscan (or at least a couple of them) all show little liver damage. If so, does this get trumped by red palms and a low platelet count  (how low btw)? I have no answers here, but I might ask at least one more doctor if time and resources permitted.

Goofy,

All valid points, but if you happen over to the other forum, in this same vein you will find interesting discussions on "box" sizes, a problem eventually fixed by a computer programmer who apparently worked on the problem over the weekend.

All the best,

-- Jim

[GoofyDad]

Initial consult was with G. Tx managed by F. Important decision points about duration included consultation between G, F and others.

G recommended 1 yr initially. I prompted revisiting based on 4 wk RVR. F concurred and ran by G. 26 weeks became the goal. I later got cold feet and discussed extending for anti-fibrotic effect and later yet extending just for safety. The livercheifs passed the pipe again (more came to this fire) and concluded risks outweighed possible benefits.

On a more serious note, GO talks about red palms, NY brings up the beaten path, then SF makes comments about longer and harder. Jim remains conspicuously silent on the creme d' nuit.

[sfbaygirl]

Nope, Dr. F