anybody have cirrhosis on biopsy with the rest of the tests totally normal?

[niceguy2007]

after reading about the palmar erythema occuring at stage 2 posted by one member here,

i was wondering if anyone on the forum has ever been diagnosed with cirrhosis on a biopsy, with:

- normal platelets
- normal spleen size on ultrasound
- no fatty liver / or some fatter liver on ultrasound
- totally normal abdomen and organs on ultrasound

??

[FlGuy]

In somes ways it's sort of academic now. I think you are in about week 11, going 24, tolerating the meds ok and I expect you intend to finish the 24 weeks, right?  You reached und early, around week 4 have not had hcv very long and have not had a biopsy. So at this point, or until you have a bx, there's not much action you can take anyway.  Although not an expert in field, cirrhosis can come with a number of 'side dishes' like platelets, palms, nevi and a number of others that can be sign or symptoms of cirrhosis.  Since you are getting farther down the tx path, the action seems to be keeping up with the tx and managing sx as best you can.  You've got seveal positive indicators in your favor, just work your way through tx and finish what you started.

[Kalio1]

Normally ONE symptom does not make a diagnosis for any illness. With cirrhosis having only "red palms" but no drop in platelets or enlarged spleen or any other symptom or sign would make it highly unlikely that you have cirrhosis. I don't even think a doctor would recommend a biopsy for you as you do not have signs that indicate the need for a biopsy or signs that you have cirrhosis other than red palms and red palms CAN be normal for some people or have some benign cause.

I agree with others that suggest you might benefit from the use of an anti anxiety med. Treatment is anxiety inducing and as I recall even before you started treatment you were dealing with a high level of anxiety. You might want to talk to your doctor about using an anti anxiety med. for the remainder of your therapy.

Hang in there, you are almost half way there!

[NYgirl]

Please nice guy you need anti anxiety medications.  You really must stop with all the obsessions. It's needless and might hurt your chances of SVR if you continue.
You have a normal problem and it must be addressed.

Stage 2 isn't cirhossis.  You know that.

[sfbaygirl/John]

there are a few 3's that relapsed here. I guess it's a decision you are going to have to talk with your dr about. I wouldn't base your decision on those factors you listed. You did get UND at 4 weeks. What was your starting VL?

[GrandOak]

Being a stage 4 I probably should have a palm problem too, but we won't go there ;-)

[scubadiver30]

Hi Florida Guy
I was wondering how old were u when u did your first round and your VL after relapse?
Nowadays, I kinda agree with niceguy about the extending 2 48 issue...
We have several weeks of TX on our backs and we realize that we can tolerate this thing for more than 6 months (or we think we can)...so even if the standard TX for 2/3 calls for 24 weeks why can't we be proactive and extend? I remember several episodes of red palms in my life and now I'm really getting scared.
My FS says 10KPA and thst F2/f3...
I'm a big man, over 40 and I haven't lost any weight on TX (in fact I'm gaining pounds) because of the fat ingestion for the riba absorbtion.- Tomorrow I go for for my 4 wk PCR and still don't know the results from the previous 2wk...:-(

Do u think I may expect to get worse SX as I go or do the SX level out after a month?
Gracias for your response and have merry Xmas