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HSV or not HSV?
I have been reading some similar stories on this forum, so I apologize if redundant:
HERE IS MY TIMELINE:
Day 1: Kissed (on lips), received brief oral sex (10 minutes) and rubbed genitals with my new girlfriend but no penetration. I didn't notice any sores on her mouth. I have never had cold sores in my life before this encounter and had been tested in the past for herpes and negative for both 1 and 2.
Day 2: My genitals were throbbing in pain (burning) ---I hadn't had an ejaculation in months, so I chalked it up to a congested prostate (or prostatitis?). I went to walk-in clinic and they shot me up with antibiotics as a precaution even though I had no intercourse (go figure).
Day 4: I experienced muscle aches, fatigue and low-grade fever (possibly ORAL HSV-1 prodrome?), urinary urgency, massive anxiety.
Day 5-9: Massive anxiety, feeling unwell, urgency, burning continued.
Day 10: I experienced muscle aches, fatigue and low-grade fever again (possibly genital HSV-1 prodrome?) and burning genitals (head of penis appeared rougher and darker (more purple, with some tiny ballpoint pen sized red bumps here and there).
Day 11: Noticed 2-3 small raised lesions middle of penile shaft ---no itching but genitals still burning.
Day 12: Lesions turned into water blister that burst on its own (clear fluid) and I didn't have the chance to swab.
Day 13: Blister healed and disappeared leaving no scar.
For the next couple of months, felt ill and genital burning came and went. Sometimes I would wake up and notice small "ditzels" (small pink/reddish dots) on my penis that were flush with my penile skin (no fluid to squeeze out since they were small and flat).
ONE MONTH LATER, I noticed a raised bump (felt like a sebaceous cyst to me) on my lower lip line near the corner of my mouth but it disappeared in a couple of days with no scarring. It didn't break open or ooze but I did notice some dead skin flake off once it subsided and disappeared.
STILL FEELING ILL AND ANXIOUS THREE MONTHS LATER (fatigue, pulsating and slighting burning genitals, buttocks, rectum, back of legs, feet, suspicious bumps on chest, shoulder, belly, even the outside of my hand!) ---my entire body feel weird and under attack from something.
MY HSV IGG TESTS AT 3 MONTHS (4 SEPARATE TESTS EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS) ARE:
HERPESELECT HSV1 = 0.10
HERPESELECT HSV2 = 0.07
I KEEP READING OTHERS ON THIS FORUM THAT HAVE NOT SEROCONVERTED IN OVER A YEAR OR HAVE YET TO SEROCONVERT, SO I AM EXTREMELY ANXIOUS. I GUESS I NEED TO WAIT FOR A LESION AND SWAB TO FIND OUT DEFINITIVELY. I WAS THE EPITOME OF HEALTH BEFORE THIS, SO I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS IS ANYTHING BUT HSV1 OR 2. I AM EVEN EXPERIENCING ELECTRIC SHOCKS AND PINS AND NEEDLES ON MY BUTT AND FEET AND OTHER STRANGE SENSATIONS INCLUDING LOWER BACK PAIN. I AM NOT GETTING ANYWHERE WITH THE MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS. ANY FEEDBACK FOLKS?
HERE IS MY TIMELINE:
Day 1: Kissed (on lips), received brief oral sex (10 minutes) and rubbed genitals with my new girlfriend but no penetration. I didn't notice any sores on her mouth. I have never had cold sores in my life before this encounter and had been tested in the past for herpes and negative for both 1 and 2.
Day 2: My genitals were throbbing in pain (burning) ---I hadn't had an ejaculation in months, so I chalked it up to a congested prostate (or prostatitis?). I went to walk-in clinic and they shot me up with antibiotics as a precaution even though I had no intercourse (go figure).
Day 4: I experienced muscle aches, fatigue and low-grade fever (possibly ORAL HSV-1 prodrome?), urinary urgency, massive anxiety.
Day 5-9: Massive anxiety, feeling unwell, urgency, burning continued.
Day 10: I experienced muscle aches, fatigue and low-grade fever again (possibly genital HSV-1 prodrome?) and burning genitals (head of penis appeared rougher and darker (more purple, with some tiny ballpoint pen sized red bumps here and there).
Day 11: Noticed 2-3 small raised lesions middle of penile shaft ---no itching but genitals still burning.
Day 12: Lesions turned into water blister that burst on its own (clear fluid) and I didn't have the chance to swab.
Day 13: Blister healed and disappeared leaving no scar.
For the next couple of months, felt ill and genital burning came and went. Sometimes I would wake up and notice small "ditzels" (small pink/reddish dots) on my penis that were flush with my penile skin (no fluid to squeeze out since they were small and flat).
ONE MONTH LATER, I noticed a raised bump (felt like a sebaceous cyst to me) on my lower lip line near the corner of my mouth but it disappeared in a couple of days with no scarring. It didn't break open or ooze but I did notice some dead skin flake off once it subsided and disappeared.
STILL FEELING ILL AND ANXIOUS THREE MONTHS LATER (fatigue, pulsating and slighting burning genitals, buttocks, rectum, back of legs, feet, suspicious bumps on chest, shoulder, belly, even the outside of my hand!) ---my entire body feel weird and under attack from something.
MY HSV IGG TESTS AT 3 MONTHS (4 SEPARATE TESTS EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS) ARE:
HERPESELECT HSV1 = 0.10
HERPESELECT HSV2 = 0.07
I KEEP READING OTHERS ON THIS FORUM THAT HAVE NOT SEROCONVERTED IN OVER A YEAR OR HAVE YET TO SEROCONVERT, SO I AM EXTREMELY ANXIOUS. I GUESS I NEED TO WAIT FOR A LESION AND SWAB TO FIND OUT DEFINITIVELY. I WAS THE EPITOME OF HEALTH BEFORE THIS, SO I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS IS ANYTHING BUT HSV1 OR 2. I AM EVEN EXPERIENCING ELECTRIC SHOCKS AND PINS AND NEEDLES ON MY BUTT AND FEET AND OTHER STRANGE SENSATIONS INCLUDING LOWER BACK PAIN. I AM NOT GETTING ANYWHERE WITH THE MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS. ANY FEEDBACK FOLKS?
ok, if you want to be sure, get a Biokit.
However, understand that your IgG results are saying you do not have HSV2. At this stage, these results are almost conclusive and certain.
People here are not physicians equipped to tell you what is wrong with you...they can only advise you based upon information you provide, and the info you have provided is incredibly STRONGLY (conclusively) saying that you do not have HSV2 or 1.
A biokit will tell you in 10 minutes + or - on HSV2. Another IgG test will tell you pretty much the same thing. These tests are only equivocal between 1.1 and 3.5 scores; i have posted a resource on this forum for people in that category, referencing NIH's study on the frequency that equivocal positives are confirmed by Biokit and WB. Feel free to take a look, but even at 1.1-1.5, these only confirm around 10% of the time; below 1.0 and down in the weeds of .08 where you are, I cannot imagine that it is better than 1 in a million that the test is false negative.
Maybe you have HPV or something else, but according to the test results, you do not have HSV1 or HSV2
However, understand that your IgG results are saying you do not have HSV2. At this stage, these results are almost conclusive and certain.
People here are not physicians equipped to tell you what is wrong with you...they can only advise you based upon information you provide, and the info you have provided is incredibly STRONGLY (conclusively) saying that you do not have HSV2 or 1.
A biokit will tell you in 10 minutes + or - on HSV2. Another IgG test will tell you pretty much the same thing. These tests are only equivocal between 1.1 and 3.5 scores; i have posted a resource on this forum for people in that category, referencing NIH's study on the frequency that equivocal positives are confirmed by Biokit and WB. Feel free to take a look, but even at 1.1-1.5, these only confirm around 10% of the time; below 1.0 and down in the weeds of .08 where you are, I cannot imagine that it is better than 1 in a million that the test is false negative.
Maybe you have HPV or something else, but according to the test results, you do not have HSV1 or HSV2
Thanks, txr890. I greatly appreciate your advice. I will seek out the Biokit.
I am more concerned about HSV-1 (given the unprotected mouth to genital exposure) which doesn't test as accurately as HSV-2 on Herpeselect ELISA testing. There are quite a few posters that have been testing for over a year and never came up positive for HSV-1 until they swabbed a suspicious lesion or area of their body. I did swab the lesions and genital area and will send this off to be PCR tested. I also drew blood for a WB test, so, hopefully, in a few weeks, I will have some updated information.
I am more concerned about HSV-1 (given the unprotected mouth to genital exposure) which doesn't test as accurately as HSV-2 on Herpeselect ELISA testing. There are quite a few posters that have been testing for over a year and never came up positive for HSV-1 until they swabbed a suspicious lesion or area of their body. I did swab the lesions and genital area and will send this off to be PCR tested. I also drew blood for a WB test, so, hopefully, in a few weeks, I will have some updated information.
---any thoughts on the oral lesions I experienced (unfortunately weren't swabbed)?
1. raised bump on my lower lip line near the corner of my mouth 3 weeks post exposure but it disappeared in a couple of days with no scarring. It didn't break open or ooze but I did notice some dead skin flake off once it subsided and disappeared.
2. 2 identical horizontal razor cuts on lip (same side as lesion, above).
1. raised bump on my lower lip line near the corner of my mouth 3 weeks post exposure but it disappeared in a couple of days with no scarring. It didn't break open or ooze but I did notice some dead skin flake off once it subsided and disappeared.
2. 2 identical horizontal razor cuts on lip (same side as lesion, above).
Hi I had the same mouth lesions and my gp and dermatologist told me there are many other everyday conditions of mouth area lesions. Only thing to do is to wait for your WB which will be as conclusive as it can get.
Thanks. Did your WB come out negative? Have you had any other oral outbreaks recently?
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Herpes spreads by oral, vaginal and anal sex.
Herpes sores blister, then burst, scab and heal.
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STDs can't be transmitted by casual contact, like hugging or touching.
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