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Herpes after 4 years?

Hi everyone, I read a lot on this forum and am really hoping someone can answer a few more questions I have, I would appreciate it so much. I am waiting another 4 weeks to get my bloodtest at 16 weeks (just incase it was a primary infection? And because I am terrified) But in the mean time I'm driving myself (and my boyfriend) insane. I am in my early 20s and we've been together for 4 years. 8 weeks ago I got a deep ulcer on my labia minora (swabbed negative at 30 hours). I'm just wondering how this works. I've heard of people getting herpes after years with the same partner, is this usually an initial or recurrent outbreak? We've been having sex unprotected this whole time so I don't understand how this could be a primary outbreak. However the ulcer was SO severe and was in it's deep ulcerated form for three weeks. No blister or bump or anything though. Thankfully Fucidin cream helped the pain which I got from the doctors after about 1.5 weeks. But don't recurrences typically last 5-7 days?

Another thing to note is we slept together a couple times when it was almost healed and he still has no signs. Would this mean he is asymptomatic? Will he always be? I am so confused about this virus now. And so incredibly scared. Please help! I have OCD and cannot stop thinking about this.
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Also, mine was basically round.

I too am having those weird pains you described above.
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Also -- I'm pretty sure I have a white scar from where my ulcer was!
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My ulcer was just like this. It was huge -- like maybe the size of a quarter or a tiny bit smaller. It was deep and it also had defined borders. Is this what yours was like? When I first noticed it, it was red, but then within a few days had like a white/gray covering on it. It then turned into a shallow ulcer. I suffered with it for about 3 to 4 weeks
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Thanks so much for your reply! Can I ask what your neuralgia felt like? Was it tingling? Did it hurt to touch? Mine doesn't I swear mine almost feels like it's my muscles and only on one side. It isn't pain at all though. Also what was your first outbreak like? Did you have many during the first year? I am beyond terrified I actually start panicking when I think about having it. I'm only in my early 20s and praying I don't have it still... I had one ulcer 9 weeks ago and my swab that I got taken right away was negative but I haven't gotten a bloodtest yet :(
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Thanks so much for your reply! Can I ask what your neuralgia felt like? Was it tingling? Did it hurt to touch? Mine doesn't I swear mine almost feels like it's my muscles and only on one side. It isn't pain at all though. Also what was your first outbreak like? Did you have many during the first year? I am beyond terrified I actually start panicking when I think about having it. I'm only in my early 20s and praying I don't have it still... I had one ulcer 9 weeks ago and my swab that I got taken right away was negative but I haven't gotten a bloodtest yet :(
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I was with my husband for. 7 years before I had my first OB so it's possible. Shortly after, he went to get tested and found he was positive but had no symptoms.  The first year was the worst.  I, like you obsessed about it. I was continually  on the internet reading up in it,  I washed my hands 1000x a day, only ate foods high in lysine, and couldn't imagine my future.  I continually felt like I was having prodromes and was sure I had neuralgia too.

After the first year, my life was suddenly went back to normal. Guess it took that long for my immune system to fight it. I rarely think about it anymore although I do read medhelp.

Hang in there. It will get better.
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I would also love to hear this answer because I'm having that same feeling!! Its terrible and I defiantly feel for you :(
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Sorry to re-visit... I am just having a LOT of trouble with this feeling down there and was hoping you could shed some light on PHN? The feeling comes and goes but is present a lot of the time. It is only on the side of my genital/groin area that my ulcer was on, but it is not on the surface and does not react when I touch it. It is so hard to describe. It's like a deep sensation and I wouldn't say tingling but maybe that could be used. Right now it's probably the worst it's been... pulsing? crawling? I don't know. I thought I saw a microscopic cut down there today (not sure if it's something or normal anatomy - doesn't hurt to touch it and is not red) so I think that probably propelled this.

I'm so terrified that I have the rare side effect of neuralgia from herpes that can't be treated. I've been trying to tell myself it's anxiety related as it seems to go away when I'm distracted but I don't know how anxiety alone could cause such a thing. I guess I just want to know what nerve pain due to HSV feels like? Is it always sensitive to touch? Could such a deep feeling be PHN? If I had one outbreak would it be normal for PHN to start randomly a month after? I am so scared. I can't even describe it and feel like my doctor will roll her eyes. I need to get the igg test but it's only been 9 weeks. I don't know what to do anymore.
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Thank you.... OCD moment (I'm going to get help for this..) but you just brought me back to reality and I thank you for that! I realize I'm extremely paranoid here. I am a very factual person and this virus is tough to figure out. As is another reason for a genital ulcer which is why it is so distressing. But I need to stop googling and finding other things to worry about such as ocular herpes. It says everywhere not to touch eyes after touching a sore? Anyway it doesn't matter, thank you so much again. Everything you and the other regular posters do here is so selfless and really amazing to see.
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What you suggest is not practically possible. That is not the way an eye becomes infected with herpes.

Ss mentioned above, it is highly questionable you even have genital herpes.
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One more thing, I was scratching my eye and it is bothering me now. If you touched down there (let's say for arguments sake touched a starting lesion) then touched your eye, would it hurt right away or would there be an incubation period? I am so nervous about everything.
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A lot of things are possible with this virus.

I think you are jumping way too far ahead here.

As with most things in life, the most rational explanation is usually right.

The reason why your partner does not have genital herpes symptoms is because he doesn't have genital herpes.

The reason why your ulcerated lesion a single one massive one that has left a scar is because it is not a herpes lesion.

The lesion swabbed negative for HSV.

For the above three reasons to all be wrong is an extremely small chance.

I do not really see any need for you or your partner to test any further. If it is important for you to know, then both you and your partner need to test to fully understand the situation.
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Thanks for your response! I do understand you can go many years but does that hold true when having fully unprotected sex so no condoms or anti viral therapy? This is a very confusing virus. I don't understand how it is so widespread if that is the case??? 4 years is a lot of unprotected encounters. Is it because he would be considered asymptomatic?

Also, can herpes leave a scar for two months? I can still see where it was very clearly.

I'm really hoping to learn a lot more about this virus so I can hopefully get up the courage to do the blood test.  Thanks so much again
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It is entirely possible to go many years before becoming infected by a partner with a herpes infection. This is an extremely common experience.

A single large ulcer though does not sound like a primary outbreak of herpes, the negative swab at least gives some weight to this notion. Your final blood test at 16 weeks will be conclusive.

It would be extremely useful for your partner to have a HSV test to see what is isn't a risk here.
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