Think Babesia as a co-infection.
does it look kinda like this.. cause im seeing the same thing.. everyday now.. its anoying i know!
Also i was reading over your other posts... Are you sure you have lupus? because it is common to be disagnosed with lupus, MS, arthritis, rhuematoid arthritis, alzeimers, parkinsons and list goes on and on. You may have had lyme the whole time, and not lupus. Did your LLMD tell you it wasnt lupus and that it was just lyme the whole time? just wondering. I have not tested for lyme yet but im 95-98% sure i have it. What else cause so many symptoms? my list of symptoms would take 6 hours to type out lol but the fact that the symptoms moe around, tell me it's lyme. I am waiting for my wife to get back from california, who is also having symptoms, as well as my son. Whoever said this cant be transmitted was wrong.... could just be co-infections though that were transmitted.. guess ill find out and I will definetly let everyone know the outcome.
Floaters are not uncommon ... it's important to get your eyes checked by an eye doc regularly anyway, so don't neglect that. My floaters would come and go. When I went to see the ophthalmologist for my usual check up some years ago, right after I was diagnosed with Lyme, I started to explain apologetically that I had Lyme, because I expected him to roll his eyes and give me the same condescending attitude I had gotten from all my other docs, but he stopped me and said No, it's a real disease, and I'm glad you told me.
So be sure to get your eyes checked, not just your prescription (if you wear glasses/contacts).
no jackie this isnt my eyes.. that is just one of a TON of symptoms and i never had floaters til now :o( I can actually see my blood cells, and the wormy like things.. everything in that video.. i can see.. this isnt regular floaters.
I am going to go get tested soon, but my wife is in california for a reunion and is coming back this sunday. She has been gone for 2 weeks. We are gonna go get tested together, i think that is the best way to go. And my fatigue is really starting to effect my job, and I cant have that! :o)
thank you jackie. sorry didnt mean to sound rude :o( wasnt trying to be. But to answer that, I do get my eyes checked regularly. Havent since this episode, but thats because i think it is because of everything else thats going on.
No, I didn't mean to imply it was just your eyes. But Lyme definitely can affect the eyes, so it's important to tell your eye doc.
Justnotsure- yeah you know what? It really does kinda look like that but I mostly see the black dots without the lighter shell around it. Annoying isn't the proper word...... more like gross, and scared, thinking there has to be a way to get rid of them.
No my llmd did not tell me that I don't have lupus. And I really don't know if I do or done in addition to lyme. Its a difficult situation...... the flares I've had with lupus were a whole lot different then this illness and seemed to have been releaved with prednisone for years...... (I only took prednisone in times of flares as megadoses) this illness is much different, and prednisone had only bed ridden me. So while that thought lingers in the back of my mind I'm thinking I might have both given symptoms are somewhat different and reactions to medication.
Sorry about the news of being transmitted..... I have heard and read many times about that being possible, it does make sense to me if a tick (or even a mosquito, which I have read in many places) can transmit to you through a bite through the blood, it makes sense that we can as well through dna.
I was actually trying to draw some of them the other day...... and that one in the video that has the circle like thing in the middle and the string like line top and bottom? That's one of the things I drew yesterday, among others.
Yep. Basically what you and I are seeing are our blood cells and the infection itself. it wont leave me alone. I have had regular floaters in the past, these are not regular floaters. From what I am learning, it can also be transmitted by fleas and biting flies(the ones with the green heads)... and by god im starting to think that either lyme, and/or its coinfections CAN be transmitted by bodily fluids/sex. Too many people who are having sex are coming here and thinking it it HIV or some other common std but tests prove otherwise. Scientists are finding it in all bodily fluids, semen, vainal fluids, breast milk, saliva etc. And to be honest, I either gave this to my wife, or she gave it to me and im not sure how either of us got it, but im gonna find out :o)
(Sigh) that's all upsetting....... I wonder if its found in sweat too...... I'm sure it is. But I would at least like to think that whatever is exiting the body is dead and being detoxified, so also therefore cannot be transmitted to anyone else. And is in fact dead and leaving my body on the way to healing.
How many do you see? Can you count them all?
I've been seeing the floaters since I was perhaps 12. I've read all the other things it's might be, detached bits of eye veins, blood, etc. I've twice happened to be looking at them when they changed shape. Once when I was young I was watching a squiggly and, pop, it turned into a fried egg shape. I asked the old guy at the garage I hung around, course he had no idea. No long ago I got to watch the last one in my right eye change from squiggly to fried egg, then disappear! That was a thrill! Mycoplasmas, and it has been established that the Lyme spirochete can change to a mycoplasmal form, can survive outside their vertebrate hosts for up to 48hrs. Leave a straw that you've drank through sit for a day then take a look down it. Don't know what'd make you think they're dead because they're coming out of you.
Just figured dead..... cuse a lot of what exits the body is waste or things like sweat is another way for the body to detoxify....... I just said "I would like to think of that way" so thinking positive I guess.
And what I meant was how many do you see in your vision like on a daily basis?
Depending on your age, there are changes in the collagen framework-type structure in the eye that begin to degrade in ~ middle age. That can cause some distortions of vision and odd things, so there may be some of that going on, but it's not the same as the little squigglers swimming through your eyes. There's nothing I know of to be done about them, except to get the underlying infections treated, and get regular eye exams from an ophthalmologist (an MD who specializes in eyes, not somebody who only does refractions and grinds lenses). I don't know what the ophthalmologist can do about the Lyme squigglers, but if there are possible secondary effects, the doc can perhaps deal with those. Just another little benefit of having Lyme, eh?
Another eye related thing, known as a scurf ring or rim. In the case of dark eyed people, a white ring around the iris. At one time its composition was analyzed. Guess what? The composition is about the same as the envelope of mycoplasmas. Cholesterol and other sterols. I'd guess that those who did the analysis had no idea they may have been analyzing something live, though I can't be sure they are mycos. Couldn't verify that without an electron microscope. Back to floaters, mine have always seemed to be somewhat anchored, in the same place most all the time. Now from time to time I have reason to use some high powered telescopes and I then see others that I don't usually see, smaller ones that I think are on the surface rather than within, the normal bacteria that comes into contact with the surface of the eye, they move about some. I had fun in microbiology class trying to tell which were my floaters and which were the bacteria we were supposed to be looking at through a relatively low powered microscope.
I'm 30 Jackie so I don't know if that would have a influence on it or not =(
Nutrinut_bob- what exactly will I be looking for in the straw?
And yes it seems like mine change to although I haven't seen them change when I was looking at one but a lot of them look like you described...... some seem to change and some seem to stay the same.
Nah, you're too young for 'old age'' floaters. They start in middle age (40s).
i wanna know what to look for in the straw too lol
I am only 31, so "old age" floaters prolly isnot my problem either lol
Beanbandit and everyone else
Mine tend to look like alot of round white cells with a black outer line with a black dot in the center and sometimes they form a worm like creature, connecting together to make a squiggly worm like creature lol and sometimes they are all spread out and wierd looking, some bigger then others(i think because it is closer to my eye focus. I also get brown hairlike creatures flashing in front of me as well.. dont know what the hell that could be.
as far as how many i see.. it varies... sometimes just a few, other times there are a ton of them. when i say a ton there are maybe between 15-30 of them.
Yup, that pretty much decribes mine....... except the circle like things look like they are more so attached to the lines..... sometimes just one dot, other times 2 or 3 on the same line.
Mine still won't go away, I'm the kind of person that refuses to believe this is part of my everyday and there has to be something somewhere I can do to get rid of them.
And maybe soon we will find out what to look for at the bottom of the straw. =D
yeh thats how mine are. Sometimes they are on a line but sometimes the line looks like a squiggly which i say looks like a worm lol I have had chains of them sometimes maybe like between 6-10 of them on the same line before. I want them to go away. I am trying to not focus on them but it is hard. And yes I cannot wait to hear what to look for in the straw too lol
Hhhmmm..... interesting. "So far" this morning I have noticed after I think I skipped one dose of antibiotics yesterday, my eye things are still here but finally seem to be fewer....... I wonder what that could mean besides it obviosly has to do with the anitbiotics in some way maybe.
Either that or I started vitamin e last night as well, 1,000 ius.....
*sigh* well, it was nice while it lasted. They are back. I had gotten all hopeful =(
*sigh* I had the same thing happen. One day they semi went away.. there werent as many and they didnt pop up as often.. but I didnt change anything... BUT.... it was short lived...
Depends on what you drink through the straw, but if the drink contains sugar, you'll see bacterial colonies start in the straw. Mycoplasmas share an ability with their cousins, the slime molds. That is to group together into a colony and go into a hybernative state until food is again available. The colonies they form are big enough to see in your straw. Makes one realize why there is so much Lyme in people who haven't been bitten by a tick. It is highly contagious, whether any physician wishes to admit it or not. In due time people will take to wearing masks I suppose, lot of good that'll do considering the small size of the mycoplasmas.
I also had this. They are a typical reaction, unfortunately with Lyme and Co’s. My retina specialist said I had extreme dry eyes. I use medicated drops which help.