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So I'm watching dr.phil the episode is called "forced to be a father" one guest had a gf who said she was supposidly unable to have kids was on bc to regulate her cycle, they had discussed kids but the guy told her he didn't want to have kids, well she ended up getting pregnant and he wasn't ready to be a dad but he is still forced to pay child support, his lawyer made a valid point, if a woman has the right to have an abortion/ give a child up for adoption then a man should have the same right not to be involved in any way including financially...never thought of it that way, but I agree, it's only fair, and a man shouldn't be responsible for a woman's decision to have a child, I think depending on certain situations of course like it was a planned pregnancy or the father was in the child's life after birth they should be forced to but his lawyer definitely had a point, a lot of crazy b words out there trapping men and what not trying to live of child support cuz pure laziness
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4476664 tn?1361632949
oh okay.
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Ya it's easier if there is someone to adopt them like a step dad or what not, and if its mutual it just depends on the situation but ya a judge has to make the final decision
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4476664 tn?1361632949
When a man wants to sign over his parental rights, doesn't it have to be a mutual thing?? Or is it something that a judge determines?? I know a woman who asked her daughters father (who wasn't around anyway, but was on the birth certificate) if he would sign over his rights so her husband could legally adopt her daughter as his own. He agreed and they made it happen. Not sure of the process, but I do know it was mutual.
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Ya in New York, I read that like 4 months ago. Some lesbian couple did that and had like a 5 yr old, times got tough and now he's paying... So messed up
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He did, you still have to pay cs in most cases, another guy on the show had sex with an ex and got a letter from the court requesting a DNA test for a 2 yr old he didn't know existed and he'd been married and had a baby by then and he's never seen the child and chooses not to have anything to do with it but he still has to pay every month, I think if they sign their rights over they shouldn't have to pay but since a lot of men try and sign rights over so they don't have to pay its a nasty court process ( which my husband is going through now) so it's not that easy
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4476664 tn?1361632949
I believe I remember hearing that somewhere too....that's a bit much!!
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4251679 tn?1370305531
Hell I forget where I read this from it happened ages ago and don't know how true it is but anyway I heard one story of a lady going to a sperm bank right and tracking down the father through the bank records and totally forced him to pay child support. Ain't that crazy?? I hope that's not true cuz poor dude was trying to help.
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Well if the guy wants nothing to do with it he can always sign away his rights. Then he does not have to br involved.
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Meeeee ttooo
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4476664 tn?1361632949
I vote yes to contracts...lol
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Hahahaha, condoms suck... I'm telling ya all we need are contracts! And everything would be fixed lol
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Yeah I think guys are equally at fault as girls are. They could wear condoms, just like we could take pills. Even if she said she couldn't get pregnant, things happen. I'm an example of that, my doctor told me I wouldn't get pregnant without IVF because of complications from a miscarriage, but I got pregnant naturally.
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And we don't see them throwing fits in court for child support, well most of them at least
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4476664 tn?1361632949
Well, if someone your with and love, you develop trust. Should he have confirmed it somehow with seeing proof?? Yes, common sense would say so, but if he was goin off of her word, that is not out of the ordinary. Us women have gone off of mens "word" way more than we like to admit and were let down, of course not the decent men in our lives, but past morons have led us to believe a lot was true but it ended up being a load of crap. There are bat s*** crazy people out there who try to trap people with pregnancy. Hell I'm not too sure that's not what my sons father did. I know condoms aren't 100% effective, but in all of the years that I used them , they were successful, and then right as me and the ex are having issues and having make up sex.....after I told him I'm done if we keep fighting....BAM, Im pregnant and had no information of a condom breaking, and I KNOW you can hear those suckers pop.
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4251679 tn?1370305531
Hah if only something like that existed! I bet there'd be less diseases in the world as well
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4251679 tn?1370305531
And not all women are mother of the year.. some run out on their kids and fathers become single parents as well.
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I wish people made like contracts before having sex stating if so n so ends up pregnant you will take equal responsibility and if its not signed by both parties then the girl is sh!t out of luck if she still decides to have sex, that would be a good idea, I bet a lot of people would stop messing around and being sleezy lol
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4251679 tn?1370305531
I agree to a certain extent. But I do believe men have the option to wear a condom! They aren't always effective 100% I know.. but in my opinion everyone who is mature enough to have sex should be mature enough to deal with the consequences!
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4476664 tn?1361632949
Agreed....obviously depending on the situation. I wish my baby's father would try to pull something like that! He ran around telling everyone he was SO excited that I was having a baby, and after he F'ed up and I made him move out, now he's claiming he wants a DNA test.....definitely depends on situation and circumstances.
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Who knows but if the tables were turned and women were forced to be mothers it would be different
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5387794 tn?1373257093
I disagree. So she said she couldn't have kids. Did she have proof from a doctor? Doubt it. He should have been more reasponsable and careful. Instead of just taking someone's word.
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