At what age is too old for a daughter to kiss her dad on the lips?

[inneedofhelp91]

I have been dating this guy for almost 2 years now. His daughter is almost 17 years old. She cuddles with him on the couch, kissing on his shoulder, kissing on his arms, rubbing on his stomach. She was lying on the couch with him, she had her head on his lap and he was rubbing her back. She laid there for hours that day. She kisses him on the lips before she goes to bed at night. She runs around the house in her bra and underwear all time. She is even now starting to run upstairs naked while her dad sits on the couch and can clearly see her running upstairs. She says "Daddy" dont look im naked. And yes she still calls him "Daddy", and talks like a baby around him. It drives me crazy when she does this. I have tried talking to my bf about this and he just says she is "Daddy's" little girl and always will be. I feel I always will be second best to her. I mean I have been putting up with it for 2 years now. I raised one daughter of my own and I have never ever saw anything like this. My bf says it is normal for a daughter to kiss and rub all over her "daddy", I told him no its not normal for a daughter at her age to do this. She even came into his bedroom not too long ago and crawled in bed with us. Laying her head on her daddy's shoulder, then she started kissing it. I got up and left the bedroom. I refuse to sit there while this is going on. I cant take it. It freaks me out.  

[specialmom]

I feel like the poster just wants to vent as she is getting very solid information whether you sympathize with her that the daughter is some kind of weirdo going after dad or if the dad is some kind of weirdo allowing his daughter to be 'too close'------  that the poster should leave the relationship.  I only see complaining about the daughter with no acknowledgement that her man ignores her feelings, that things aren't changing and probably won't so she should leave, and that it has always been this way and she is just now fed up with it and maybe should have left the first time she got 'creeped out'.  Nothing left for me to say here.  

[Londres70]

Dear, do yourself a favor for your sanity and well-being.....leave this.  I feel very sick about this.  This will turn out very bad for you if you stay.    

I know you said there was nothing sexual going on to your knowledge.....I am not so sure.    

May I ask where is the child's mother?  When did her mother and father divorce or separate?  

[lucknlove1989]

I completely agree with deadmemory's post. And as far as being in bras and panties cuddling with her dad??? That sounds extremely inappropriate. I have always been close with my father but i would NEVER run aroung the house naked nor in a bra and panties. I'm only 22 and I understand why this bothers you. It doesn't seem normal to me but that is just MY opinion.

[inneedofhelp91]

These actions are becoming more and more everyday. They have been for the last 6 months. That is why i said it freaked me out.. I could see if it had been going on the whole time. Now it is getting to the point when we are out in public she is wanting to hold his hand and wanting him to put his arm around her and hug her all the time. She is wanting to kiss him in public too. I wasnt raise like this so that is why im saying something. I would like to thank everyone for there input into this. Im really not freaked out about the kiss on lips, its more the rubbing and caressing him on the couch that kinda of freaks me out. There are times she does it when she in bra n underwear when she is cuddle with him.

[deadmemory]

Very good and valid points and opinions from Londres an and Specialmom. Very well put! I hope the best for the poster..

Respectfully,
Krystal

[specialmom]

I agree with Londres.  I also think we are hearing the story through someone that is angry and fed up- which leads me to believe that we may not be getting a 'full' picture.  could the info given be skewed?  

But neither that is here nor there.  This woman has told her boyfriend that she doesn't like this (feels second to his daughter-----  which I suspect is the main issue) and he has said 'too bad'.  

No hope for this relationship to resolve peacefully in my opinion when he basically isn't interested in her input to something that 'freaks, creeps' her out.  

I would say this relationship has no chance of survival.