14 year old and Mom TOO affectionate or not?

[lobo29]

I recently moved in with a great woman, she is 33.  She asked me to move in 2 months ago and I happily accepted.  We got along GREAT and our sex was incredible but has since decreased secerely. I noticed quickly that her 14 year old would parade around only in his VERY short boxers all the time, very easily seeing his privates bouncing as he walks. She too would parade around in a very short PJ nightie that when she bent over you can see everything. I have finally requested for him to always be dressed when I am home and for her to wear something more appropriate when he is home and they both have complied.  He looks 16 or 17 but has just turned 14.  

When I first started coming over a year ago, I quickly noticed the intimate hugs and kisses on the lips, then saw him actually lower his hands to her waist then rear end.. but when he saw me he quickly took his hands off her. recently one night her and I were just laying in bed watching TV. Both of us under the covers, her son comes in and practicaly dry humps her while he is wearing just his PJ bottoms. Kissing her on the lips and neck saying "I love you mommy".  after about 30 seconds of this he gets off her and she says "I love you too". and he leaves. I voiced my uncomfortableness with this and she spoke to him about it and it never happened again. Also I voiced my concern with  the hugs and intimate kisses all the time, and she SAID she would talk to him and this doesnt happen anymore when I am there that is. Just a quick kiss on the lips.. like a pucker kiss and hug and she pushes him off.   He continually comes to daily for kisses but she pushes him away.  BUT I am sure that more goes on when I am not there, as I work a full time job.  

I once walked in on them in her bedroom BOTH laying on the bed. He was in his PJ bottoms, I think on top of the covers and she was under the covers sitting up.  The thing is when I walked he quickly jumped out of the bed and first layed on the oppoisite side of the bed on the floor face down as if to hide. I told him I see you and then he just kneeled on the floor hiding his lower half REFUSING to get up .. now why does a man or boy refuse to stand up right away??? Obviously hiding his hard on. I looked at her face and she is extremely red and embarrassed smiling. During this time SHE tells to go get her more ice water and hands me her cup of already filled ice water. I say you dont need anymore you have a full cup. Obviously she was trying to get rid of meso he could depart easily. Finally after a few minutes he is able to stand and he leaves the room. NOTHING was said to me from her as Iay there stunned. After that we just went to sleep. It was never brought up again, I know MY FAULT!  

She constantly goes into his room at least 3-5 times a night sometimes just for a minute or 2 or sometimes for about 5 minutes. I ask why she went in there and it was to say goodnight or tell him to shower or put his clothes away or some other excuse.  Sometime before we go to bed and sometimes after we are already in bed she does this. His room is right accross from hers/ours and she will shut his door every time and will shut our door sometimes. Just recently I asked her to leave the doors open and so far she has and she has cut down the number of times she goes in there. I have started telling him "we are going to sleep now and locking our door, go tell your mom goodnight so she doesnt have to get up later". So far this has worked out.  

There is no discipline from her for anything that he does not do!  She started a chores list that he never does, she tells him  to shower and he never does when she wants him to, its always hours later if he does at all, he never helps with anything unless he wants something in return. When he is sitting on the bed and she goes in there to say goodnight he nestles his head into her large breasts after kissing her and says "I love you mommy" with a smile on his face!   There is no talking to her without her defending herself with him, or defending him all the time and then I always get the silent treatment for 2 or 3 days.  

She knows I am uncomfortable about their closeness but continues to kiss on lips and wear next to nothing when they say goodnight so he gets a good feel of her body when they hug.  I was not brought up this way and its getting more difficult each week that passes. I love her very much but its killing me inside. I know they are MUCH closer when I am not there, Of course she says he NEVER comes in to her room when I am working but he tells me that he goes in to say goodnight still, and who knows what else.   Her eyes cant lie... they say so much when she looks at me and tells me things. They use to go into the bathroom when each other was showering. She says we only have 1 bathroom so when someone has to pee we dont lock the door. BUT everytime she showers he all of a sudden he MUST go pee??  Or I have have caught him going into her room just as she is getting out of the shower so he catches her naked getting dressed.. when I saw him closing her door after her shower  I walked in and she was still naked and said.. OH I thought I had the door locked!  Of course when I am in there and he didnt know I was, while she was getting undressed a few times she would slam the door on him and yell to knock first.. but NOT when I wasnt in the room!  All just a show for me.

I went through their texts on their phones a few times (I know I shouldnt have) when they left them out or were sleeping.. its all lovey stuff.. and she calls him "daddykins" sometimes. And she sends him sexual type funy pics like our supermarket sells weird foods, one of which is "spotted D**K". She took a pic of this and sent it to him. His reply was "YUMMY"!!  WTF??  

I do not have a probelm with a mother being close to her son .. but once puberty is reached its time for privacy on both ends. He should respect her and she should respect him and his privacy.. I feel that this will be going on for several years to come.. I am terrified about that. I can't deal with it that long. One day everything will come out of my thoughts and out of my mouth and either she will throw me out or understand what I am feeling and HOPEFULLY let me help her teach him some responsibility, respect and discipline. I feel VERY sorry for this young man.. when he gets older he will have NO sense of responsibility and will never treat ANY woman with respect.. because he is not being raised that way.  If I accuse her of this and its NOT happening I will feel like a fool and she will obviously kick me out.. but I am sure she wouldnt admit it to me anyway, right??  Half of me wants to catch them in the act and the other  half keeps saying LET IT GO..  

I have come home from work at irregular times on a couple of occassions and nothing was going on, she would be in her room or elsewhere in the house and he would be playing his games in his room. But to me that just meant they finished or just hadnt started anything or just werent in the mood that day.

AM I CRAZY??  Can a perfectly normal looking, loving and caring woman,  who has a responsible job be having sex with her son??    The ONLY thing I keep asking myself is "WHY would she ask me to move in IF something was going on"?  Stuff like that can't be hidden all the time' We were fine, NO problems when I lived at my house and she would stay or I would stay at hers a couple of days. ANY comments would be helpful!!

[perch101]

Sorry.... I don't believe this. Agree with Anniebrooks line of thinking. I think this is a fetish post. It's not the first time medhelp have had them.
Very disturbing.

[AnnieBrooke]

lobo, you posted this entire thing on the 10th and got some good answers, to which you responded that you don't think you have that much to worry about after all.  You've even incorporated some of your answers from that posting into this one.  

Why ask again starting from the beginning?  I'm beginning to wonder if the person sexually bothered by the kid's tight boxers is you.

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Abuse-Support/Loosing-my-mind-here-HELP/show/1571224?personal_page_id=2277952#post_7139275