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Books on Thyroid issue
Has anyone ordered a book named "Stopthethyroidmadness"?? I came across the web site and found the information very helpful and therefore i am going to order the book. It also backs up what some people on this site says about the type of tests that are useful and "how to find a good doctor" etc.
Wondering if anyone has read it???
Wondering if anyone has read it???
Wanna buy MY book lol?
I'm thinking of writing one called ...Hyperthyroidism and Hypothyroidism for Dummy Endo's . lol
Joke sorry.....
I'm thinking of writing one called ...Hyperthyroidism and Hypothyroidism for Dummy Endo's . lol
Joke sorry.....
What it really comes down to is you becoming your own 'test guinea pig".
Most of these authors have some type of favoritism based on themselves or just a few patients they studied.
Just goes to show, anyone can be an author on this if they have the time.
Most of these authors have some type of favoritism based on themselves or just a few patients they studied.
Just goes to show, anyone can be an author on this if they have the time.
Mary Shomon's books are great. Richard and Karilee Shames books are great. Also, Ridha Arhem has a very good book that describes other auto-immunities that can go with Hashi and his use of T3 therapy. He goes into detail about his many patients and their various thyroid issues. The only fault I found with his book is his strict belief in synthetics. Everyone is different.
:) Tamra
:) Tamra
I haven't started to read mary's book yet....and i changed my mind about ordering the STTM book after the first poster. LOL
If you find Mary's books controversial - you may waste money on getting the STTM book.
I agree with Redhead...not everyone does need T3.
I certainly dont and am one of the lucky ones who converts TOO well if on a high dose of T4 med.
Although I have read the Mary Shoman books ...hyperthyroidism and hypothyroidism.
I found them to be informative about issues with the thyroid, testing etc but didnt agree 100% with what she wrote in them.
But as I said...when first being diagnosed, I used these books as a Bible.
I certainly dont and am one of the lucky ones who converts TOO well if on a high dose of T4 med.
Although I have read the Mary Shoman books ...hyperthyroidism and hypothyroidism.
I found them to be informative about issues with the thyroid, testing etc but didnt agree 100% with what she wrote in them.
But as I said...when first being diagnosed, I used these books as a Bible.
NO...however i am going to. I ordered the one by Mary shomon before you suggested the other and i think i need a magnifying glass to read it...:LOL (my eyes are getting very bad)
I am going to get as many books as possible to educated myself..
Thanks
I am going to get as many books as possible to educated myself..
Thanks
Did you order the book I recommended to you "Overcoming Thyroid Disorders" by Dr. David Brownstein. He really goes over the importance of checking the available t3 level and why. Excelent book and not as biased, just truthful and informative. Spells it out very clearly and helped me so much with my understanding of thyroid issues, meds, hormones, levels/ranges etc, etc, etc..
Hi!
I've read STTM and while it is great for covering symptomology for low thyroid function and adrenal issues, she also pushes the use of hydrocortisone for healing adrenal fatigue. I understand that this is necessary for people whose adrenals have virtually tanked, but she almost scares you into believing that everyone with low adrenal function should use hydrocortisone. I once belonged to an online support group for adrenal fatigue and STTM is their bible. I got better from adrenal fatigue by finding a holistic MD who is also treating my thyroid issues. He would have started me on Armour except for the fact that it had become hard to get recently, so instead he started me on Cytomel (which he says is easier to adjust), and STTM thinks that no one should be using synthetics. STTM has its good points, but I don't think it offers the only solution. Good luck!
I've read STTM and while it is great for covering symptomology for low thyroid function and adrenal issues, she also pushes the use of hydrocortisone for healing adrenal fatigue. I understand that this is necessary for people whose adrenals have virtually tanked, but she almost scares you into believing that everyone with low adrenal function should use hydrocortisone. I once belonged to an online support group for adrenal fatigue and STTM is their bible. I got better from adrenal fatigue by finding a holistic MD who is also treating my thyroid issues. He would have started me on Armour except for the fact that it had become hard to get recently, so instead he started me on Cytomel (which he says is easier to adjust), and STTM thinks that no one should be using synthetics. STTM has its good points, but I don't think it offers the only solution. Good luck!
No I am sure Red isn't saying anything on the tests. Everyone should get the FT3 and FT4 tests.
What I can say is Red is saying the author of that book STTM - Janie Bowthrope ONLT believe people can get well using Desiccated thyroid medication.
She totally debunks any synthetic treatment - especially T4 Synthroid alone.
I can't believe in her ideas on this... I agree many feel better adding a T3 med in as well as maybe trying NDT - but to say so coldy ALL T4 synthetics is junk is ver swallow for me to believe.
Also she "rally's" too much on her personal goals w/ thyroid disease. Its like a person who doesn't think there are remifications when things go wrong after opening their mouths.
I feel she has spent a long time researching thyroid disease and has some very good things outlined available - yet she is very guilty on turning this whole idea around to suit her feelings - instead of being wide open to just helping people regardless of what meds worked for her and what she feels everyone needs to be on.
In my opinion - its no different w/ STTM and NDT as it is with Merck Medco and Abbot Labs - with Synthroid.
Its not about "WHAT" - it about finding out all there is and finding the answers to get each one of us well.
The fight of which meds work best is irrelevant. Fighting to make the doctors run the right tests like the frees and not relying on the TSH so much will solve many problems for patients.
What I can say is Red is saying the author of that book STTM - Janie Bowthrope ONLT believe people can get well using Desiccated thyroid medication.
She totally debunks any synthetic treatment - especially T4 Synthroid alone.
I can't believe in her ideas on this... I agree many feel better adding a T3 med in as well as maybe trying NDT - but to say so coldy ALL T4 synthetics is junk is ver swallow for me to believe.
Also she "rally's" too much on her personal goals w/ thyroid disease. Its like a person who doesn't think there are remifications when things go wrong after opening their mouths.
I feel she has spent a long time researching thyroid disease and has some very good things outlined available - yet she is very guilty on turning this whole idea around to suit her feelings - instead of being wide open to just helping people regardless of what meds worked for her and what she feels everyone needs to be on.
In my opinion - its no different w/ STTM and NDT as it is with Merck Medco and Abbot Labs - with Synthroid.
Its not about "WHAT" - it about finding out all there is and finding the answers to get each one of us well.
The fight of which meds work best is irrelevant. Fighting to make the doctors run the right tests like the frees and not relying on the TSH so much will solve many problems for patients.
For a person like myself w/high blood pressure as well as having hypo symptoms...i have to be very careful w/med's that i take that may contribute in raising my blood pressure even more.
If everyone with low thyroid problems were prescribed the natural stuff, we wouldn't have enough to go around. Armour has just begun restocking their shelves after several months of shortage. My aunt just had her Armour filled but she's taking a low level.
FT3 testing is very important, and many of us will need a T3 drug, but not everyone. My mom, who is 75 with an enlarged heart does not take Cytomel with her Levo. My endo, whom I trust knows a lot about treating thyroid, is also my mom's endo, and he would not give her Cytomel.
:) T.
FT3 testing is very important, and many of us will need a T3 drug, but not everyone. My mom, who is 75 with an enlarged heart does not take Cytomel with her Levo. My endo, whom I trust knows a lot about treating thyroid, is also my mom's endo, and he would not give her Cytomel.
:) T.
I was thinking the same thing as i read it also....besides, i'm understanding that there is a huge shortage in armour meds as well.
OK...since i've read your post, i am thinking twice about ordering the book!
So you are suggesting that ordering FreeT3 testing should be based on the patient's condition (preferably their other levels that are tested)????
That is is huge discussion that we've had on this site...and many do agree that Free T3 testing is very important.
Thanks for your opinion.
So you are suggesting that ordering FreeT3 testing should be based on the patient's condition (preferably their other levels that are tested)????
That is is huge discussion that we've had on this site...and many do agree that Free T3 testing is very important.
Thanks for your opinion.
I have the book. Janie was kind enough to send me a copy to Australia. But after having read it I am actually starting to lose faith in her ideas. Her idea is that pretty much EVERY thyroid patient needs T3 which is actually not true. In some cases that could cause huge issues.
In her book I can barely find anything related to anyone without a thyroid either genetic or surgery, related issues. I also find that she skims over alot of the other major issues of thyroid disease, and basically attacks and witch hunts doctors. I would have preffered to see perhaps some information on Hypopituitarism, secondary hypothyroidism and more!
It seems those people who have skimmed the web-site fall madly in love with her ideas then get on the band wagon that T3 is the answer. Again as I said it is NOT for every thyroid patient, and indeed in Australia you would be VERY hard pressed to even find a compounding pharmacist here to give you any, let alone a doctor who will actually give you a prescription for it.
I do agree with her attitude that most doctors have no clue, but I sure don't believe that 'bashing' them is the way to go. Perhaps her efforts should be put more toward the teaching hospitals and get new doctors to see the bigger picture when it comes to treatment of thyroid disorders. In my opinion EVERY pregnant mother should be tested throughout the term, EVERY psychiatric patient needs testing, and so on. (Having had personal issues in these things, I can tell you it needs to be THAT needs to be changed!)
Many doctors will actually snort at you if you say you have her book. My endocrinologist is excellent and explained why Free T3 would in my case back in December been a disaster. I understood all he said and then re-read Janie's book and am glad I didn't get the T3 at that stage. Had I insisted and got it I could have died from a heart failure. He is MORE than happy to prescribe Free T3 when my levels are out of whack and not before. He said, "I have read her book, and I can see her good intent, but she has not studied biology and the molecular weight and structure of how the T3 works and in your case, right now it would be detrimental." I appreciated his honesty.
In her book I can barely find anything related to anyone without a thyroid either genetic or surgery, related issues. I also find that she skims over alot of the other major issues of thyroid disease, and basically attacks and witch hunts doctors. I would have preffered to see perhaps some information on Hypopituitarism, secondary hypothyroidism and more!
It seems those people who have skimmed the web-site fall madly in love with her ideas then get on the band wagon that T3 is the answer. Again as I said it is NOT for every thyroid patient, and indeed in Australia you would be VERY hard pressed to even find a compounding pharmacist here to give you any, let alone a doctor who will actually give you a prescription for it.
I do agree with her attitude that most doctors have no clue, but I sure don't believe that 'bashing' them is the way to go. Perhaps her efforts should be put more toward the teaching hospitals and get new doctors to see the bigger picture when it comes to treatment of thyroid disorders. In my opinion EVERY pregnant mother should be tested throughout the term, EVERY psychiatric patient needs testing, and so on. (Having had personal issues in these things, I can tell you it needs to be THAT needs to be changed!)
Many doctors will actually snort at you if you say you have her book. My endocrinologist is excellent and explained why Free T3 would in my case back in December been a disaster. I understood all he said and then re-read Janie's book and am glad I didn't get the T3 at that stage. Had I insisted and got it I could have died from a heart failure. He is MORE than happy to prescribe Free T3 when my levels are out of whack and not before. He said, "I have read her book, and I can see her good intent, but she has not studied biology and the molecular weight and structure of how the T3 works and in your case, right now it would be detrimental." I appreciated his honesty.
I have read the website, and while I do agree with a lot of what they say, I don't agree that natural thyroid meds are the ONLY option. Everyone is different. Some people have reactions to the natural stuff, and likewise, the synthetics. I do believe that FT3 levels need to be addressed and, if necessary, treated. I'm on a low level synthetic T3 med along with my T4 med. The T3 med does make a huge difference for me.
:) Tamra
:) Tamra
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