Aa
Dying. Again. Dose Change.
I had my dose increased 30 mg two weeks ago and I am literally dying..
Immediately 2 hrs after increasing my armour 30mg, my Cymbalta stop working for few days (which is hell), thankfully it started working again. That's not worst part.
difficulty sleeping
heart palpitations
joint/muscle pain
fatigue after meals (seems like my blood sugar is all messed up)
neck pain
stomach pain
constipation, belching
cold feet
lethargy
I'm not sure what to do at this point, its like i'm starting all over again.. I am taking 120mg of armour right now. I am going to get my previous lab tests and schedule an appointment with my doctor next week. There must be something else going on here..
It's very frustrating because It seems thyroid disease is reguarded as "no big deal" on the internet/public/ and medical community. Youv'e got to be kidding me.
Immediately 2 hrs after increasing my armour 30mg, my Cymbalta stop working for few days (which is hell), thankfully it started working again. That's not worst part.
difficulty sleeping
heart palpitations
joint/muscle pain
fatigue after meals (seems like my blood sugar is all messed up)
neck pain
stomach pain
constipation, belching
cold feet
lethargy
I'm not sure what to do at this point, its like i'm starting all over again.. I am taking 120mg of armour right now. I am going to get my previous lab tests and schedule an appointment with my doctor next week. There must be something else going on here..
It's very frustrating because It seems thyroid disease is reguarded as "no big deal" on the internet/public/ and medical community. Youv'e got to be kidding me.
Dreamnaut, I owe an apology for not checking to see your gender (I asked if you took estrogen in a post far above) Ummm, had your testosterone checked? What I am saying is that the endocrine system is complex and there are lots of variables that can cause your symptoms. If you are not satisfied with your current doctor's taking a pro-active approach to your symptoms - try to find one who will!
I am going to be changing to endo #3 very soon. This one I am told is willing to prescribe compounded meds : ) I am hoping this is a good sign!
I am going to be changing to endo #3 very soon. This one I am told is willing to prescribe compounded meds : ) I am hoping this is a good sign!
COMMUNITY LEADER
Bama_Lori ----- No one is against trying to help this person, or anyone else; we always have to keep in mind that what happened to us, may not be the same thing happening to someone else. We are all very sorry for the mistreatment you apparently got; it's obviously left you very bitter, but there is no need to be rude to other members who might disagree with you.
It seems that low vitamin D levels often seem to go hand in hand with hypothyroidism, and it's often recommended, here, that it be checked.
No one is saying that the tests shouldn't be done; by all means if your doctor will do them, go for it. In my case, I could have sworn I had a parathyroid issue at one time, because of all the symptoms. I mentioned it to my doctor and he nearly laughed me out of his office - sure it made me mad as all get out. As it turned out, once my thyroid issues were being treated adequately, most of my symptoms went away, indicating that there's nothing wrong (at this time) with my parathyroids. With insurance companies being reluctant to pay for some tests, it's hard to get a doctor to order them, without an obvious indication.
Taking that into consideration, when someone is obviously hypo, such as DreamNaut, it makes more sense to concentrate on that; demanding the necessary tests to make sure the thyroid treatment is optimal before asking for tests/treatment that may not be needed.
We routinely recommend that patients get tested for vitamin D, B12, magnesium, etc. Some doctors are even reluctant to run these, and deficiencies can cause many of the same symptoms as those of hypothyroidism, hyperparathyroidism, or any number of other diseases.
It seems that low vitamin D levels often seem to go hand in hand with hypothyroidism, and it's often recommended, here, that it be checked.
No one is saying that the tests shouldn't be done; by all means if your doctor will do them, go for it. In my case, I could have sworn I had a parathyroid issue at one time, because of all the symptoms. I mentioned it to my doctor and he nearly laughed me out of his office - sure it made me mad as all get out. As it turned out, once my thyroid issues were being treated adequately, most of my symptoms went away, indicating that there's nothing wrong (at this time) with my parathyroids. With insurance companies being reluctant to pay for some tests, it's hard to get a doctor to order them, without an obvious indication.
Taking that into consideration, when someone is obviously hypo, such as DreamNaut, it makes more sense to concentrate on that; demanding the necessary tests to make sure the thyroid treatment is optimal before asking for tests/treatment that may not be needed.
We routinely recommend that patients get tested for vitamin D, B12, magnesium, etc. Some doctors are even reluctant to run these, and deficiencies can cause many of the same symptoms as those of hypothyroidism, hyperparathyroidism, or any number of other diseases.
Hello,
I am not on the community, as often as I'd like to be, but wanted to say hello to everyone and let you know I've been following this thread.
When I was diagnosed 2yrs ago with a severe Vit D deficiency my endo ran and then re-ran every blood test to be sure my parathyroids were functioning okay. And, I mean extensive bloodwork!!!! In my case all was normal (thankfully) & we had no reason why my Vit D was so low, but by taking Vit D script all my symptoms went away (many very similar as described above), so that is where my limited knowledge of the parathyroids became a reality (and honestly, a scare). For me, all checked out fine and rechecked fine.
Another test, one can take, is a 24hr urine study. That helps identify the calcium levels in the urine as well as minerals and other info.
Everyone's opinion is great to give and get advice on the this thread, keeping in mind nobody is right or wrong. Our Thyroid Community doesn't judge one another --this something that since I've been a part of since 2006, we have prided ourselves on.
Although we may differ in opinion -- one isn't right and one wrong.
In my opinion -- and that's just my two cents -- bring the test up to your doc and see what he thinks -- we aren't doctors, so we really cannot diagnose -- but, we can have opinions and share them among the community -- among ourselves.
At the end of the day our doctors make the diagnoses -- we can help ea other by benefiting from what we have learned along our own path.
C~
partial thyroidectomy 1/07
Synthroid
Vit D
I am not on the community, as often as I'd like to be, but wanted to say hello to everyone and let you know I've been following this thread.
When I was diagnosed 2yrs ago with a severe Vit D deficiency my endo ran and then re-ran every blood test to be sure my parathyroids were functioning okay. And, I mean extensive bloodwork!!!! In my case all was normal (thankfully) & we had no reason why my Vit D was so low, but by taking Vit D script all my symptoms went away (many very similar as described above), so that is where my limited knowledge of the parathyroids became a reality (and honestly, a scare). For me, all checked out fine and rechecked fine.
Another test, one can take, is a 24hr urine study. That helps identify the calcium levels in the urine as well as minerals and other info.
Everyone's opinion is great to give and get advice on the this thread, keeping in mind nobody is right or wrong. Our Thyroid Community doesn't judge one another --this something that since I've been a part of since 2006, we have prided ourselves on.
Although we may differ in opinion -- one isn't right and one wrong.
In my opinion -- and that's just my two cents -- bring the test up to your doc and see what he thinks -- we aren't doctors, so we really cannot diagnose -- but, we can have opinions and share them among the community -- among ourselves.
At the end of the day our doctors make the diagnoses -- we can help ea other by benefiting from what we have learned along our own path.
C~
partial thyroidectomy 1/07
Synthroid
Vit D
Thanks for the validation Mommy!
Now...tell me how different this symptom list from HPTH is from HYPO...cant tell it can you?
Symptoms of Parathyroid Disease (Hyperparathyroidism)
Loss of energy. Don't feel like doing much. Tired all the time. Chronic fatigue.
Just don't feel well; don't quite feel normal. Hard to explain but just feel kind of bad.
Feel old. Don't have the interest in things that you used to.
Can't concentrate, or can't keep your concentration like in the past.
Depression.
Osteoporosis and Osteopenia.
Bones hurt; typically it's bones in the legs and arms but can be most bones.
Don't sleep like you used to. Wake up in middle of night. Trouble getting to sleep.
Tired during the day and frequently feel like you want a nap.
Spouse claims you are more irritable and harder to get along with (cranky, bitchy).
Forget simple things that you used to remember very easily (worsening memory).
Gastric acid reflux; heartburn; GERD.
Decrease in sex drive.
Thinning hair (predominately in middle aged females on the front part of the scalp).
Kidney Stones.
High Blood Pressure (sometimes mild, sometimes quite severe; up and down a lot).
Recurrent Headaches (usually patients under the age of 40).
Heart Palpitations (arrhythmias). Typically atrial arrhythmias.
+ Constipation or IBS
Most people with hyperparathyroidism will have 4 - 6 of these symptoms. Some will have lots of them. A few people will say they don't have any... but after an operation they will often say otherwise. 95% of people with hyperparathyroidism will have 3 or more of these symptoms. In general, the longer you have hyperparathyroidism, the more symptoms you will develop.
Now...tell me how different this symptom list from HPTH is from HYPO...cant tell it can you?
Symptoms of Parathyroid Disease (Hyperparathyroidism)
Loss of energy. Don't feel like doing much. Tired all the time. Chronic fatigue.
Just don't feel well; don't quite feel normal. Hard to explain but just feel kind of bad.
Feel old. Don't have the interest in things that you used to.
Can't concentrate, or can't keep your concentration like in the past.
Depression.
Osteoporosis and Osteopenia.
Bones hurt; typically it's bones in the legs and arms but can be most bones.
Don't sleep like you used to. Wake up in middle of night. Trouble getting to sleep.
Tired during the day and frequently feel like you want a nap.
Spouse claims you are more irritable and harder to get along with (cranky, bitchy).
Forget simple things that you used to remember very easily (worsening memory).
Gastric acid reflux; heartburn; GERD.
Decrease in sex drive.
Thinning hair (predominately in middle aged females on the front part of the scalp).
Kidney Stones.
High Blood Pressure (sometimes mild, sometimes quite severe; up and down a lot).
Recurrent Headaches (usually patients under the age of 40).
Heart Palpitations (arrhythmias). Typically atrial arrhythmias.
+ Constipation or IBS
Most people with hyperparathyroidism will have 4 - 6 of these symptoms. Some will have lots of them. A few people will say they don't have any... but after an operation they will often say otherwise. 95% of people with hyperparathyroidism will have 3 or more of these symptoms. In general, the longer you have hyperparathyroidism, the more symptoms you will develop.
Confusing ....by talking about parathyroid...come on'
He will be having more blood work....Christ....all I am saying IS ADD TWO FREAKING CHECK MARKS ON THE LAB SLIP TO BE SURE>>>HOW HARD AND CONFUSING IS THAT TO CHECK PTH AND CALCIUM?????
EXACTLY....TWO CHECK MARKS ON A LAB SLIP so get OFF MY BACK.....only thing that is confusing here is why you are so against trying to really help this person.
My situation is NOT unique to ME 1 out of every 100k people will have this condition, after the age of 60 that quadruples the rate....IT AINT ALL THAT RARE, what IS rare is to get a doctor to CHECK THE PTH BOX ON THE BLOOD SLIP.
and when I say Nazi...I meant it as the Seinfeld Soup Nazi episode...priceless.
And when I suggested CHECK MARKING THE BOX ON THE LABS and dietary changes, that was to help DREAMNAUT to AVOID YEARS of suffering with NO ANSWERS he is young and doesnt need his life ruined like mine..
I Have one purpose in this forum, to learn how to feel better myself by reading everyones posts and to help others aviod my pain of misdiagnosis, foreclosure and bankruptcy because the answers never came soon enough.
Cymbalta and all the head drugs that followed screwed me up worse than any of the drugs, and I had a laundry basket full,,,,,all the head drugs made all my symptoms WORSE....only way for me to handle the depression...And ANGER now is with Ecotherapy...no drugs, so as soon as the sun comes up, I am going for a walk...
Symptom treating is pointless until you can find the ROOT cause.
Lori
He will be having more blood work....Christ....all I am saying IS ADD TWO FREAKING CHECK MARKS ON THE LAB SLIP TO BE SURE>>>HOW HARD AND CONFUSING IS THAT TO CHECK PTH AND CALCIUM?????
EXACTLY....TWO CHECK MARKS ON A LAB SLIP so get OFF MY BACK.....only thing that is confusing here is why you are so against trying to really help this person.
My situation is NOT unique to ME 1 out of every 100k people will have this condition, after the age of 60 that quadruples the rate....IT AINT ALL THAT RARE, what IS rare is to get a doctor to CHECK THE PTH BOX ON THE BLOOD SLIP.
and when I say Nazi...I meant it as the Seinfeld Soup Nazi episode...priceless.
And when I suggested CHECK MARKING THE BOX ON THE LABS and dietary changes, that was to help DREAMNAUT to AVOID YEARS of suffering with NO ANSWERS he is young and doesnt need his life ruined like mine..
I Have one purpose in this forum, to learn how to feel better myself by reading everyones posts and to help others aviod my pain of misdiagnosis, foreclosure and bankruptcy because the answers never came soon enough.
Cymbalta and all the head drugs that followed screwed me up worse than any of the drugs, and I had a laundry basket full,,,,,all the head drugs made all my symptoms WORSE....only way for me to handle the depression...And ANGER now is with Ecotherapy...no drugs, so as soon as the sun comes up, I am going for a walk...
Symptom treating is pointless until you can find the ROOT cause.
Lori
Hi ladies.
I have had both HPT AND currently have Hashi's, and if I've learned anything, it is that not all doctors are created equal in their search to find the source of a problem. I have my own maddening horror stories about both and, although each condition had its own unique symptoms and presentation, they both had similarities too.
The awesome thing about a HPT diagnosis is that it can usually be cured with a simple surgery and if there is the smallest change this is the problem, then a person owe it to themselves to get tested.
Unfortunately, the Hashi's (and other thyroid issues), do not have such a simple answers. My point I'm trying to make here is, no stone should go unturned when trying to find the source of a problem. High calcium levels can also indicate cancer, but that doesn't mean everyone who has hypercalcemia has cancer and although thyroiditis causes severely low TSH levels, it doesn't mean a person has Grave's disease. Yannow? ~MM
I have had both HPT AND currently have Hashi's, and if I've learned anything, it is that not all doctors are created equal in their search to find the source of a problem. I have my own maddening horror stories about both and, although each condition had its own unique symptoms and presentation, they both had similarities too.
The awesome thing about a HPT diagnosis is that it can usually be cured with a simple surgery and if there is the smallest change this is the problem, then a person owe it to themselves to get tested.
Unfortunately, the Hashi's (and other thyroid issues), do not have such a simple answers. My point I'm trying to make here is, no stone should go unturned when trying to find the source of a problem. High calcium levels can also indicate cancer, but that doesn't mean everyone who has hypercalcemia has cancer and although thyroiditis causes severely low TSH levels, it doesn't mean a person has Grave's disease. Yannow? ~MM
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