High TSH Rise

[MSAnand]

Hi

1- Can TSH values rise from 65 to 89 in  10 days

2- What could be the reason of the rise and is it normal

[gimel]

We seem to be going around in circles here.  There is no way to give you specific answers to those questions, nor do I see the relevance to your current status.  You gave me your test results without labels or ranges.  I could only assume that they are both very low in the range and express my surprise that have no symptoms.  As long as you feel well, there is no pressing need to do anything.  When you first start having symptoms then you can pursue from your doctor, getting a prescription for thyroid med which you are going to need sooner or later, with Hashi's.  

[MSAnand]

with TPO 490 & TG  302

1-  Usually at what rate does the anti bodies increase or is being produced if it takes many years to damage the thyroid , ie how much per month , or per year

2-  for the above TPO & TG numbers , can those number show within 2-3 months??

3-  Can tension cause a major increase in TSH ie from normal to 60 or to 80??

[gimel]

Your Free T3 was 1.5 and your Free T4 was .5?  If the reference ranges from that lab were like what we usually see, 2.3-4.2 for Free T3 and .6-1.50 for Free T4, then I am very surprised that you are not noticing symptoms.  

From what I read somewhere, "There are many possible reasons for the immune system to start labeling the thyroid as foreign tissue and create autoimmune thyroid conditions (including genetics, environment, endocrine imbalance, chemical exposure, responses to viruses and other antigens, stress responses and more)."  So in that context I guess those that you mentioned  could be considered a possible factor, along with the many others.   But I have to add that of all our members with Hashi's I don't recall one mentioning having HIV or Hepatitis C.  

[MSAnand]

1.5 & .5 respectively.

I have another question,  I read in the net that having an STD like herpes or HIV or virus like hepattitis C or EBV  would trigger Hashimoto's Thyroiditis . Is this true ???? and does HIV or Hepattis C specificallly have anything to do with causing or triggering Hashimoto's Thyroiditis

[gimel]

What I tried to explain was that TSH varies a lot even on the same day, so the increase is nothing to become concerned about.  Of course it can also be associated with the antibodies of Hashi's attacking your thyroid gland and causing it to be able to produce less thyroid hormone, which would then send the TSH level higher.  There is no way to determine how long you have had Hashimoto's because the rate at which the thyroid gland is destroyed varies widely, up to years before total destruction.  No it is not the effect of a viral infection.  I am a bit surprised that you have had no symptoms at all.  What are your Free T3 and Free T4 levels and reference ranges shown on the lab report?

[MSAnand]

Thanks for the quick response

TPO 490 & TG  302 are high
T3&T4 are low

No Symtoms!!

so , yes I think it is Hashimoto's Thyroiditis.

My quesions are

1- Is it normal for  TSH values rise from 65 to 89 in  10 days

2- What could be the reason of the rise and is it normal

3- Can i know how long ( months, years )  Hashimoto's Thyroiditis has  been affecting me from the TPO & TG numbers?? I have no symtoms??!!

4- Could it be  some kind of a viral infection??

[gimel]

TSH is affected by so many things, including the time of day when blood is drawn for the test, that not much can be concluded from the TSH increase.  More importantly, both results are way higher than normal and the most common cause for high TSH is Hashimoto's Thyroiditis.  Have you been tested for the possibility of Hashi's?  Those tests are TPO ab and TG ab.  Have you been tested beyond TSH, for the biologically active thyroid hormones, Free T3 and Free T4.  If not you should.  Also, please tell us about any symptoms you are having.