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Pregnant on methadone and taking heroine.
I am 28 weeks pregnant with my baby and I am on a prescribed 55 Mls of methadone. I have been extremely stupid and for a week after hearing some really bad news I have resorted to smoking heroine. I have only been doing that for a week not that that's ok but would it be ok after such a short time to stop ? I can buy extra methadone if need be and taper off over say a week . Am just scared I withdraw therefore baby will too ?
i want to stress i am NOT judging you honey. i commend you for even posting. it does show that you love your children enough to reach out for help. however; the reality of the situation is not good and sugar coating it would not benefit you.
i sure hope you continue to post and let us nudge you into making the best decisions so the worst doesn't happen to you.
they are unlikely to take your child if you are doing what is best.
i sure hope you continue to post and let us nudge you into making the best decisions so the worst doesn't happen to you.
they are unlikely to take your child if you are doing what is best.
I sincerely hope you're still around, at least reading the replies you've gotten.
I'm SURE it hurts to read the harsh reality of what you're going through. Please keep talking to us, we care and we won't judge you. Sweeping it under the rug and not dealing with it isn't the answer though hon. You have to face this. We'll help you to do that.
I really hope you keep posting.
I'm SURE it hurts to read the harsh reality of what you're going through. Please keep talking to us, we care and we won't judge you. Sweeping it under the rug and not dealing with it isn't the answer though hon. You have to face this. We'll help you to do that.
I really hope you keep posting.
When I was pregnant with my first back in 2007 I was 100% clean except for the occasional indulgence in script cough syrup, which was prescribed by my OBGYN with no problems.
Well one week he was out of the office so I went to see another doctor on my plan since I had a mean upper respiratory infection. He was super sweet and gave me the cough syrup with no issues.
A couple of days later my HUSBAND gets a phone call (he was my emergency contact) telling him point blank that the office manager planned to call CPS and have my baby taken away from me.
I was FLOORED!! What in the WORLD was she talking about??
I got on the phone, crying, and asked why she would do such a horrible thing to a first time mother?? She haughtily claimed that I did NOT tell them I was pregnant, even though I checked the box on the form that I was and *hello* I was about 8 MONTHS along!!
In any case, I had to BEG this total judgemental stranger to NOT take my baby away from me when my hormones were at their worst.
She finally shut up and left me alone but I've never forgotten the horror I felt over just the *prospect* of having my first precious son ripped from my arms right after I had him!!
The point is - all it takes is ONE judgemental jerk to make a single phone call to CPS and you are toast. PLEASE don't play this game of Russian roulette. :(
Well one week he was out of the office so I went to see another doctor on my plan since I had a mean upper respiratory infection. He was super sweet and gave me the cough syrup with no issues.
A couple of days later my HUSBAND gets a phone call (he was my emergency contact) telling him point blank that the office manager planned to call CPS and have my baby taken away from me.
I was FLOORED!! What in the WORLD was she talking about??
I got on the phone, crying, and asked why she would do such a horrible thing to a first time mother?? She haughtily claimed that I did NOT tell them I was pregnant, even though I checked the box on the form that I was and *hello* I was about 8 MONTHS along!!
In any case, I had to BEG this total judgemental stranger to NOT take my baby away from me when my hormones were at their worst.
She finally shut up and left me alone but I've never forgotten the horror I felt over just the *prospect* of having my first precious son ripped from my arms right after I had him!!
The point is - all it takes is ONE judgemental jerk to make a single phone call to CPS and you are toast. PLEASE don't play this game of Russian roulette. :(
they will test your baby's first poop. that will catch anything you have taken from 12 weeks pregnant to birth. there is NO WAY to cheat that.
i cannot imagine how it would feel to carry a baby for 9 months, give birth and never be able to hold the baby. you will know that feeling if you do not stop using. nothing will be as 'bad news' as that reality will be.
you are already red flagged, which means ANYTHING you do will be caught and it will be very painful emotionally for you and your kids.
you are in control of whether they take your kids or not. the pain they suffer in state care is on you because you are the one using.
i don't mean to sound harsh, but i want you to understand and avoid the pain of them refusing to let you hold or see your baby when they are born.
please stop using. you would not shoot up your child with heroin would you?? well, that is basically what you are doing by using while pregnant.
i cannot imagine how it would feel to carry a baby for 9 months, give birth and never be able to hold the baby. you will know that feeling if you do not stop using. nothing will be as 'bad news' as that reality will be.
you are already red flagged, which means ANYTHING you do will be caught and it will be very painful emotionally for you and your kids.
you are in control of whether they take your kids or not. the pain they suffer in state care is on you because you are the one using.
i don't mean to sound harsh, but i want you to understand and avoid the pain of them refusing to let you hold or see your baby when they are born.
please stop using. you would not shoot up your child with heroin would you?? well, that is basically what you are doing by using while pregnant.
Hey mama. How about this, just come clean about it. There is SO much than can be done NOW to wean you and your baby off this. Proactive today will probably increase your chances of keeping your baby. Not changing now doesn't speak much for the best interest of the baby and they will know the second he is born, IF he survives the pregnancy. Not trying to scare you. The system does NOT want to take babies but you have to show them you are fighting the fight, not trying to get around the system. Today,
Just today,
Put that baby first. This is your chance to be the mom he deserves.
Just today,
Put that baby first. This is your chance to be the mom he deserves.
Ditto what Keith said.
Laura-
You really need to listen to nursegirl and Vicki. They are both medical professionals who have seen this time and time again. They also both spend hours on this forum helping addicts that are feeling desperate and alone. You aren't a bad person honey, you are an addict. We all want you happy and healthy with that baby in your arms. Please consider everything that has been said to you. It is all coming from love and concern.
You need to give you and baby a chance- and it is your choice and yours alone right now. I hope you find the strength and courage that I know you have to make the choice to come clean with your doctor.
Please keep posting.
Sending support...
Lu
Laura-
You really need to listen to nursegirl and Vicki. They are both medical professionals who have seen this time and time again. They also both spend hours on this forum helping addicts that are feeling desperate and alone. You aren't a bad person honey, you are an addict. We all want you happy and healthy with that baby in your arms. Please consider everything that has been said to you. It is all coming from love and concern.
You need to give you and baby a chance- and it is your choice and yours alone right now. I hope you find the strength and courage that I know you have to make the choice to come clean with your doctor.
Please keep posting.
Sending support...
Lu
I was thinking...even if the fake urine gets by, they'll still test the meconium and that will tell the whole story...
Consider asking for help NOW and re read what NG wrote.
Consider asking for help NOW and re read what NG wrote.
HI again Laura,
Glad to see you back. I was going to ask the same question Vicki asked, are you still using heroin, and if so, does your doctor know? What's your due date?
I'm sure your scared, but hon, if you WANT to be the best Mom you can be to your baby, and the best YOU you can be for YOURSELF, putting off recovery isn't the answer. My opinion is that you WANT it, but you're just not ready, you're not "there" yet. If you were, I don't think you'd be saving urine, or waiting until the baby comes to start getting the help you need. That's ALL your addict brain talking to you. That's why you need the help. Addiction isn't a battle meant to be fought alone, and with your baby on the way, you need help more NOW than ever. You have a MUCH better chance of maintaining longer term sobriety if you get started now.
As for your prior issues with CYS, I'm sorry for what you went through but, regardless of WHY you were on their radar, if you're reported to them (which is a strong possibility if your doctor isn't aware of your heroin use, and finds out, which is VERY likely)...you're really facing a tough tough road fighting for your baby. You don't want to be scrambling to try to keep your baby. If you start getting help NOW, and start getting very honest with your doctor, even IF CYS gets involved, it's highly unlikely that they would actually take your baby. They will work WITH you and help you.
These agencies don't WANT to take children away, they want them with their Mom, but try to think about it fairly, their job is to protect children from dangerous or neglectful environments. If a woman uses drugs that could harm her baby during pregnancy, without trying to get help DURING the pregnancy, then of course CYS would want to ensure that child's safety, as they should. If a mother has shown disregard for her child's safety while pregnant, what's going to ensure that she's going to make different decisions after the baby is born? They have an obligation. Someone has to protect the innocent children who don't have a choice in the matter, you know? I'm not saying that to hurt your feelings, sweetie, but to hopefully get you to understand that child protective agencies have to protect children, even if it's from their very own mother. You need help NOW. I would hate to hear that you're fighting to keep your baby, when you could have started fighting this battle (of addiction) NOW and avoided losing your child.
Most likely your secret is going to come out eventually hon, and it will be SO much better if it comes out because YOU told the doctor and asked for help...not because you got caught being deceitful.
I really truly hope you start changing your plan soon....because the one you have just isn't a good one, for you OR the baby. Very best to you....keep posting, there are amazing people here ready to help you and support you through this. You're not the first person to be in this situation and you certainly won't be the last! You're in my prayers...praying you find the strength and courage to do the right thing, which I know isn't easy.
Glad to see you back. I was going to ask the same question Vicki asked, are you still using heroin, and if so, does your doctor know? What's your due date?
I'm sure your scared, but hon, if you WANT to be the best Mom you can be to your baby, and the best YOU you can be for YOURSELF, putting off recovery isn't the answer. My opinion is that you WANT it, but you're just not ready, you're not "there" yet. If you were, I don't think you'd be saving urine, or waiting until the baby comes to start getting the help you need. That's ALL your addict brain talking to you. That's why you need the help. Addiction isn't a battle meant to be fought alone, and with your baby on the way, you need help more NOW than ever. You have a MUCH better chance of maintaining longer term sobriety if you get started now.
As for your prior issues with CYS, I'm sorry for what you went through but, regardless of WHY you were on their radar, if you're reported to them (which is a strong possibility if your doctor isn't aware of your heroin use, and finds out, which is VERY likely)...you're really facing a tough tough road fighting for your baby. You don't want to be scrambling to try to keep your baby. If you start getting help NOW, and start getting very honest with your doctor, even IF CYS gets involved, it's highly unlikely that they would actually take your baby. They will work WITH you and help you.
These agencies don't WANT to take children away, they want them with their Mom, but try to think about it fairly, their job is to protect children from dangerous or neglectful environments. If a woman uses drugs that could harm her baby during pregnancy, without trying to get help DURING the pregnancy, then of course CYS would want to ensure that child's safety, as they should. If a mother has shown disregard for her child's safety while pregnant, what's going to ensure that she's going to make different decisions after the baby is born? They have an obligation. Someone has to protect the innocent children who don't have a choice in the matter, you know? I'm not saying that to hurt your feelings, sweetie, but to hopefully get you to understand that child protective agencies have to protect children, even if it's from their very own mother. You need help NOW. I would hate to hear that you're fighting to keep your baby, when you could have started fighting this battle (of addiction) NOW and avoided losing your child.
Most likely your secret is going to come out eventually hon, and it will be SO much better if it comes out because YOU told the doctor and asked for help...not because you got caught being deceitful.
I really truly hope you start changing your plan soon....because the one you have just isn't a good one, for you OR the baby. Very best to you....keep posting, there are amazing people here ready to help you and support you through this. You're not the first person to be in this situation and you certainly won't be the last! You're in my prayers...praying you find the strength and courage to do the right thing, which I know isn't easy.
Hi there.
Yes my son was in the system as I was looking after three under Fives my two step sons and my own son too , they got involved when my partner died it wasn't because of drugs . I know that saving clean urine is not facing my problems long term but it will get me through the pregnancy . I don't intend keep on using I have managed to reduce my usage considerably I haven't had any today at all , I will get the help I need once the baby's here I ain't risking them slapping an order on my unborn child. I can't . On a more positive note yes I know I have a problem and that I need help , thanks for your advice.
Yes my son was in the system as I was looking after three under Fives my two step sons and my own son too , they got involved when my partner died it wasn't because of drugs . I know that saving clean urine is not facing my problems long term but it will get me through the pregnancy . I don't intend keep on using I have managed to reduce my usage considerably I haven't had any today at all , I will get the help I need once the baby's here I ain't risking them slapping an order on my unborn child. I can't . On a more positive note yes I know I have a problem and that I need help , thanks for your advice.
You saved clean urine?
If your son was in the system, I would imagine there was probably a good reason, I'm assuming related to your addiction?
Sweetie, if that's the case, something needs to change for you or you'll be facing the same fate with the new baby...and saving clean urine is only giving your addict brain an excuse to use down the road...that's not recovery.
You need to get some intensive, long term addiction help so you can break this cycle.
Best to you!
If your son was in the system, I would imagine there was probably a good reason, I'm assuming related to your addiction?
Sweetie, if that's the case, something needs to change for you or you'll be facing the same fate with the new baby...and saving clean urine is only giving your addict brain an excuse to use down the road...that's not recovery.
You need to get some intensive, long term addiction help so you can break this cycle.
Best to you!
Hi there sorry I didn't get on line sooner. I have managed to stop heroine for a week now , just as well as I was asked for a sample today and my new very young inexperienced midwife is on my back constantly in the way of my prescription . Now I know it may not be the best way but at least they've nothing on me now , I have had the social work on my back and suffered for four years . My son was in care for that time and he suffered the most it almost killed the pair of us. Anyways let me know what you think please about this situation.. I also saved some clean urine for the Future just in case x
I'm sorry I didn't realize you had another post going. Please talk with your midwife along up any doses on your own.
Please be honest with your prescribing doctor so you can do what is safest for your baby. Your baby is big now and ingests what you do. Also feels what you feel, in a sense. Do you have supportive people around you to help you stay clean even in hard times as you mentioned above? It helps to have the right tools so you know when to ask for help instead of picking up. It is not safe to take more methadone than prescribed either...so talk to someone who can really help you and keep checking in with us too! Good luck let us know how it goes!
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