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ABOUT SUBOXONE ...
I HAVE RECENTLY IN FEBRUARY DETOXED FROM A METHADONE PROGRAM AFTER BEING ON IT ABOUT 9 YRS. I WENT TO AN ADDICTION DOCTOR. HE DEFINATELY DID THE RIGHT THING GETTING ME OFF THE METH. FIRST HE GAVE ME OXY-COTIN AND SOME KIND OF MORPHINE PATCH FOR ABOUT 3 WEEKS. THEN GAVE ME BUPRENORPHINE SHOTS THAT I HAD TO GIVE MYSELF FOR A COUPLE DAYS. NOW I AM ON SUBOXONE. STARTED WITH A 8MG TABLET A DAY. NOW I AM TAKING A HALF OF A 2MG TABLET( WHICH IS 1 MG.) I CAME THIS FAR FROM BEING ON METHADONE I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF I COULD DETOX OFF THIS 1 MG.
THANKS, GINA
THANKS, GINA
2003? WTF? Hmmm, sure glad I wasted my time, then.
What about miss barbra? Is this a current post? Transitioning from methadone to sub/ bupe can be tricky. In order for bupe to work, you have to be feeling pretty bad, though you should instantly feel better. The other problem with bupe after meth is that bupe has a built-in "ceiling effect", meaning that taking more bupe will not have any effect. The ceiling effect is different for different people, figure > 24mg is pointless for 50% of the population, though 32mg gets given out all the time. Sadly for me it's about 8mg.(!robbed!), maybe 12. THis means that if your meth habit is "bigger" than 24mg of bupe, you will feel WDs. This is why your methadone dose must be tapered first. The times I did this, it was not really painful until about 20mg, but we are all different. I strongly dislike methadone, as I have nothing but bad memories associated with it. Nonetheless, it is possable, and desireable, to switch from one to the other. I have not done this myself, but have known a few who have. I wold think that finding a good addiction doc would be the way to go, the risks of improper medicating are very real.
The worst thing you can do is to take methadone and bupe at the same time. The bupe will "kick out" the meth and argue with it, leaving you mighty sick indeed. This is why you must wait for a while after taking methadone. I wouldn't want to attempt this without supervision from an *expirienced* MD near by. Someone who has done this before. So, get an MD, then get good nutritional health brain balancing, get a support group, or person, then you new found "people" will help you through it, knowing what to expect at every turn. This will reduce the fear by a huge amount.
Let us know what you plan on...
------------------p&F
What about miss barbra? Is this a current post? Transitioning from methadone to sub/ bupe can be tricky. In order for bupe to work, you have to be feeling pretty bad, though you should instantly feel better. The other problem with bupe after meth is that bupe has a built-in "ceiling effect", meaning that taking more bupe will not have any effect. The ceiling effect is different for different people, figure > 24mg is pointless for 50% of the population, though 32mg gets given out all the time. Sadly for me it's about 8mg.(!robbed!), maybe 12. THis means that if your meth habit is "bigger" than 24mg of bupe, you will feel WDs. This is why your methadone dose must be tapered first. The times I did this, it was not really painful until about 20mg, but we are all different. I strongly dislike methadone, as I have nothing but bad memories associated with it. Nonetheless, it is possable, and desireable, to switch from one to the other. I have not done this myself, but have known a few who have. I wold think that finding a good addiction doc would be the way to go, the risks of improper medicating are very real.
The worst thing you can do is to take methadone and bupe at the same time. The bupe will "kick out" the meth and argue with it, leaving you mighty sick indeed. This is why you must wait for a while after taking methadone. I wouldn't want to attempt this without supervision from an *expirienced* MD near by. Someone who has done this before. So, get an MD, then get good nutritional health brain balancing, get a support group, or person, then you new found "people" will help you through it, knowing what to expect at every turn. This will reduce the fear by a huge amount.
Let us know what you plan on...
------------------p&F
can someone help me. I am scared to take the suboxone because I am afraid I will go through withdrawels. I 'm on a really high dose of methadone and i really want to get off but I'm afraid if i take the sub i will feel so bad. what happens when you take it?
Gina posted this question in 2003. There is a glitch. I'm sure she doesn't even come here and has since found help for her problem.
Hi,
You started this thread, and yet no one seems to have replied to you, save for FLaddict, who knows a lot about bupe.
Too bad the post went so poorly, not your fault, perhaps if you could post again, and hopefully the thrill-seekers will not use it for other means.
It is entirely possible to go from 1mg bupe to nothing, though you might consider taking .5 mg for a while. I have found that I have an easier time if I let my body adjust for 6 or 7 days at each dose level. Moving to nothing can then be somewhere between a cake walk and a horror show. I have done it before without too much fuss, though I did not get into recovery at the time, so never took advantage of being clean (and did not stay clean). I am now taking 1 mg per day, and getting used to it (day 4), though I'd be fibbing if I said I was feeling great. It is, however, a lot better than hardcore WD.
----p&F
You started this thread, and yet no one seems to have replied to you, save for FLaddict, who knows a lot about bupe.
Too bad the post went so poorly, not your fault, perhaps if you could post again, and hopefully the thrill-seekers will not use it for other means.
It is entirely possible to go from 1mg bupe to nothing, though you might consider taking .5 mg for a while. I have found that I have an easier time if I let my body adjust for 6 or 7 days at each dose level. Moving to nothing can then be somewhere between a cake walk and a horror show. I have done it before without too much fuss, though I did not get into recovery at the time, so never took advantage of being clean (and did not stay clean). I am now taking 1 mg per day, and getting used to it (day 4), though I'd be fibbing if I said I was feeling great. It is, however, a lot better than hardcore WD.
----p&F
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Is suboxone hard to get off of?
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Not nearly as hard as 150mg of methadone/day, or any methadone per day for that matter. That is a high dose, do you have a history of using other opiates?
Yes, a new thread would be a good idea, could you repost your question?
-----------p&F
Is suboxone hard to get off of?
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Not nearly as hard as 150mg of methadone/day, or any methadone per day for that matter. That is a high dose, do you have a history of using other opiates?
Yes, a new thread would be a good idea, could you repost your question?
-----------p&F
You posted on a post in the archives from 2003... if you would please post a new question on the new page.. Not everyone has the set up to read old posts.. I know a good deal about Sub so I can help.. I used it for 10 days..
For one you would have to taper down to 20-30mgs of methodone a day to make the switch.. and be in WD for 48 hours to start the Sub..
For one you would have to taper down to 20-30mgs of methodone a day to make the switch.. and be in WD for 48 hours to start the Sub..
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