Addiction

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After about 2 years, I finally found an addictionologist in my area.  He is licensed to prescribe Subutex.  It is the "new" Buprenorphine only it comes in tablet form and is much stronger than the old version.  The only glitch is we cannot find any pharmacies that have it.  He could buy it directly from the manufacturer but it would cost him $700 - that is the smallest amount he can purchase at one time.  He won't do it.  He charges $175 per hour and I'm sure once the Subutex is available it will be expensive.  There are no breaks for addicts in this country.  I've waited a long time for this but now it seems like it will just be a big money thing like Methadone.  I'm really depressed now and I feel like there is not a lot of hope.  Is anyone else out there been trying to find this medication?

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Unless you are loaded with cash, you might want to call this doctor and find out what costs are involved.

The manufacturer wants to make money off this venture, so you can be SURE the drug won't be cheap.  The bup that is out now is called Buprenex (liquid) and it is very very expensive.  Plus my doctor charges $175/hour and wants to see me twice a week.  I could do a 1/2 hour session which would be $100 but I don't see what I'd get from so little time.  I'm really stuck

I read somewhere on this thread that someone said we didn't "need" Buprenorphine to detox.  This is true.  However if  a person wants to be tapered down while stilll maintaining their job and lives, this is a very painless way to do it.  I don't really have the luxury of taking a lot of time off from work and from past experiences detoxing, I would need it.  And, some people might want to be "maintained" on it like they would Methadone.  

The point is that this med is nearly impossible to find at this point and it is very frustrating.

[sharonver]

I will ask him when he calls to make the app't.  They are waiting for the questionaire that I filled out first before they even decide if they are going to see me. I don't think that they are using the liquid form here.  They are using subonex (pill form)which is probably less expensive. I too am trying to taper off meth while I continue to work, it isn't easy.  I do not want to maintain on bup. just get through the last of the meth detox.

Sharon

[hippy]

i have watched thomas not post for months.
when people so gifted  do the rimbaud thing
they almost gain mythic statis.
thomas is so elequent , n his receipe
speaks for it self.
i do hope he is fine.

peace !!!!!!!!!!

[suzieneedshelp]

i AM in regular contact wiht the infamous Thomas. (lol) Have not heard from him now in about 3 days.  I'll let you  know when i hear from him.
Thanks REx for posting his recipe!  I noticed many need it lately!
You're da man!
Suzie

[Sturgil]

As you might of read I am on day 38 of a Hydro and Soma ride from heck. 15 to 20 of the 10/500 hydros a day and 10 of the Soma 350mg all in one day. I have tried cold turkey, I never seemed to make it stick. Last month I went to Detox for the first time. I was there a week, they really took care of me and I did see just how far along I am in my addiction. When the pain gets bad enough we will make a move to stop. Right now you can not feel anything. If you do stop the first day you will start to get a little of your feelings back. Cry, pray and get mad at the drugs. Most of all get help. One day you will look back at the drugs and thank them for all the things they have taught you. Before we can be successful we must learn the workings of this disease and understand how to handle LIFE.

The Thomas receipe (sp) is great. However I did not use the Benzo's. Remember you can do it, but you need to get the proper tools to get and stay sober. Our secret lives are a big burden to us, we can do tell anyone because they will not understand. Here in this forum they do understand. Also in NA and AA they understand.

Keep us posted, we all want to help. Experience, Strength and Hope will be found here, at Church, and at AA.

God's speed.

- Sturgil

Thomas where are you?

[suzieneedshelp]

Tapering is very hard for us addicts.  Most CANNOT do it on their own.  I coudl not!  So...you need a friend/ family member to help you and dole them out as planned..without your chance of locating the stash!  Do not put yourself in the situation where they call to you 24/7..cuz they do!  Your mind plays tricks on you to convince you that "well just today, one more wont hurt, i won't take more tomorrow"!  Yeah right!
Peace!
Suzie